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Thread: Lets Talk HAM (Dev Please Explain your Logic)

Pikeman_Saint
Mon Jul 28, 2003 1:51 pm
#1

Ok so you know the topic...


History:


1) Weapon Certs OUT OF ORDER


2) Block: 1 in 100 chance? **edit**....


3) Skill Mods: Why do we rank last? dont tell me its because we hit harder (see below)


4) Skill Mods 2: RANGED DEFENSE: we need more for PVP: Why does a rifleman get more than a pure melee?


Now lets get to where the rubber meets the road (at least for me)


1) Why is it that pure melee classes (excepting the TKA) are better served WITHOUT armor? and we take more damage......


2) WEAPONS:


a. Reinforced Staff: why is this still the best weapon for a pikeman 1/2 way through the skill tree?


ANSWER: Because the HAM costs are so low its the most efficient weapon


b. VIbro Axe: Why is this weapon better than a vibro lance?


Answer: ???? waiting.....


c. Vibro Lance: Why is this suppossed to be our best available weapon but its outperformed by a tier 2 polearm weapon cert (reinforced) in total DPS?


Besides whos going to use the vibro lance/axe come on you expect the melee class with the worst skill mods, that cant wear decent armor (due to HAM costs) to basically kill themselves by using thier "suppossedly" best weapon?


Im waiting on an explaination for your so called "vision" of the pikeman and logic behind your reasoning in your weapon design.....


Im unapoligetic in my tone......mainly because I refuse to fight with a wooden stick for the next year, and sit passivly by while other classes get fixed.....


Theres not a lot of us pikeman, and we're a shy lot, but we deserve to be heard just as much as the FOTM....er TKA's .....



Augustine




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hamhed
Mon Jul 28, 2003 2:03 pm
#2

2) Block: 1 in 100 chance? **edit**....


actually, i think its less than that, more like 0 in 100 chance.


2) WEAPONS:


a. Reinforced Staff: why is this still the best weapon for a pikeman 1/2 way through the skill tree?


ANSWER: Because the HAM costs are so low its the most efficient weapon


You're probably just not getting good upper level weapons. I had a fully experimented RCS that was made with 900+ steel and 700+ wood( the best we ever found ),sliced,that did about 21 DPS, now i've got a sliced lance that does about 42 DPS with about 1.5 the HAM cost. Keep in mind also that the Advanced Blade Vibro schematic is currently bugged, detracting from the maximum quality of all the weapons that can use it (lance, vibro lance, long vibro axe ).




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Cheeseswordman
Mon Jul 28, 2003 8:16 pm
#3

The big issue i have is gonna be the armour thing. Cause i don't like the idea of being forced to use 30k to buy some descent armour to just be able to stay alive. Though i must say i usally don't wear it... I'm to afriad to lose it, so i only use it to solo small stuff i know i can beat... which is sad.

I still use the combat staff i got my first day because it has the lowest HAM cost and still can dish out good dmg. I do think that pikemen need more work... i don't understand why we are the only brawler class that is tough. From what i've seen we don't hit that much harder than the TKAs. It might be that i haven't seen the really good pikemen or it might be that there aren't any... maybe the whole class is messed up.
Verhoffin
Tue Jul 29, 2003 12:36 pm
#4

The devs obviously don't know the meaning of the term Pikeman.....
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