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Thread: What's the best ranged skill to go with Pikeman?

Garrik
Thu May 20, 2004 4:08 pm
#1

I love the pikeman skill. I want to have a ranged skill to go with it . Not sure what to take. Was thinking of pistoleer but not sure. Any suggestions? Thanks for any help you can give me

Oberon131313
Thu May 20, 2004 4:10 pm
#2

depends on what you are looking for. If you are looking for more defenses, more damage, more AOEs.


Pistoleer for defenses, Rifle for damage and defenses, and Carbine for AOE/state effects...


or you could go with Hybrids...A Flame DOT for Commando would compliment some of the other DOTs you can find on looted pikes...





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Gunman21
Thu May 20, 2004 7:21 pm
#3

Carbine is the ranged that is most similar to us....aoe attacks, action dmg, etc so stacking that with pike would make a good action killer/state applier.



Of course, taking any of them will help, I wouldn't say theres one that would be best because after the combat balance, they should all be equal.






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Oberon131313
Thu May 20, 2004 7:32 pm
#4

listen to him, he's right, and has a blue-er name



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MadDog36
Fri May 21, 2004 8:01 am
#5

I was planning on going up Rifleman, because block stacks, but isn't there something wrong with block? I know it only blocks 50%, but does it always go into effect?





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UWSkeletor
Fri May 21, 2004 8:05 am
#6






MadDog36 wrote:

I was planning on going up Rifleman, because block stacks, but isn't there something wrong with block? I know it only blocks 50%, but does it always go into effect?









the major problem is that it only blocks 50% of the damage. It doesn't always go into effect, it is like dodge/counterattack in that there's a chance that it will go into effect after you are hit. Some people say they don't see it as often as a fencer dodges or a swordsman counterattacks, but definitely with COB you will see yourself block a lot, at least I do.


With that being said, having the stacked block doesn't help all that much, but having Rifleman does help for other obvious reasons.




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Yalton
Fri May 21, 2004 8:08 am
#7

I like the rifleman to support the Pike. Not because of dammage but because of types of damage. When you look at the damage types for pike and Rifleman you have acces to all types of damage except Blast. And if you want Blast get novice Heavy Swordsman.
admisgd
Fri May 21, 2004 8:22 am
#8




I like the rifleman to support the Pike. Not because of dammage but because of types of damage. When you look at the damage types for pike and Rifleman you have acces to all types of damage except Blast. And if you want Blast get novice Heavy Swordsman





/agree

With rifle and pike i have almost every damg type coverd I find this very handy in PvE also it makes a very versitale combo in PvP with the combined defenses of both classes. The only complaint is you wast an entire line because you basically hit your block cap as soon as you hit the first box in the rifle block line, however i understand there needs to be a limit and to be honest the versitility of the damgtypes and the powerful specials of a master riflemen make it all worth it. This is just my prefrence I know you can get higher resists with pistols but i have never played the class and don't know any pistoleer pikemen but i am sure they are out there.



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ArkMindSpear
Fri May 21, 2004 8:28 am
#9

Pikeman already have +115 block.

The cap is set at +125

So as far as block goes, you're only going to seeless than a 10% improvement over block, wich wasn't that great already.

Not really worth it, i'd say.

I THINK, that even though, rifleman are SUPPOSED to have a -2.5X melee defense or something.....sumothing like we are supposed to have our accuracy X2.5 when attacking a rifleman, they also have the most melee defense of any ranged proffesion...

so assuming everything was working as it should...thats really freakin dumb.



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admisgd
Fri May 21, 2004 8:45 am
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So as far as block goes, you're only going to seeless than a 10% improvement over block, wich wasn't that great already.

Not really worth it, i'd say.





yea i stated that in my previos post I agree with you if you want to pick up rifle just for the bonuses to your block there is a hard cap and it simply isn't worth it however if you are looking for a good ranged class to compliment your Pike there are some nice extra defenses and if you PvE alot the ability to deal almost every damg type makes for a great addition.



Adda
Master Commando / Master Smuggler


Zabin
Master Pikeman / Master Rifleman
UWSkeletor
Fri May 21, 2004 9:27 am
#11






ArkMindSpear wrote:

Pikeman already have +115 block.

The cap is set at +125

So as far as block goes, you're only going to seeless than a 10% improvement over block, wich wasn't that great already.

Not really worth it, i'd say.

I THINK, that even though, rifleman are SUPPOSED to have a -2.5X melee defense or something.....sumothing like we are supposed to have our accuracy X2.5 when attacking a rifleman, they also have the most melee defense of any ranged proffesion...

so assuming everything was working as it should...thats really freakin dumb.







The way it works is melee get a bonus to-hit modifier to hit a rifleman when they are holding a rifle (could be vs all ranged professions, not sure). So even though I may have 125 melee defense, when holding a rifle I get hit well over a majority of the time. So, to be honest, the +40 melee defense from rifle makes no sense to me, it doesn't do squat while holding a rifle, it only benefits you when you equip a weapon other than a rifle. I've been a supporter of removing it on the rifle boards, but, like it's been said thousands of times before "wait until the combat balance".


(Also, I believe pistoleer's get 50 melee defense and rifles get 40, still stupid that rifles get any but I'm almost positive a pistoleer does indeed get more melee defense, now rifle's do get far more ranged defense than the other ranged professions)




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