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TKA's defenses are SO high compared to pikeman that they do MORE damage per-hit to us than we do to them in PvP.

I am sporting a 460 Damage LVA and this is still the case.

I am by no means saying they need less defense....but shouldn't we get at least close to as much?

They do 1/3 th e damage at 3X the speed in PvE......

but in PvP they do 1/1 the damage at 3X teh speed...and have time to get in tons of status effects, and tehy don't miss!

BULLSHT!!! i am clling them on it.

I'm one box away from Pike Master. I dueled one of my TKM friends last night. She even waited for my to actually land the first hit.....took me 4 swings to hit her, hit for a 329 bleed.

After that I found myself stunned, blind, and dizzy, in less time than it took me to even swing at her again. My next three hits landed for 88, 65, and 26 dmg, using leghit3. I tried a few polearm hit 2's after that but both missed, and by that time the 147 dmg she dished out 3 times faster than I could miss her took its toll and I was done. (we both had buffs on at the time. The most dmg I did was from that bleed, but it's first effect was after the battle was completed).

So, TKA's hit 3 times faster than we do, have more status effects than we do, can target the mind pool, and on avg outdmg us at every turn.

We definatly need some loving, as we're supposed to be the hardest hitting class in SWG.

Not to mention they're keeping melee at very low 200dmg or less, while commandos, BH, and even riflemancan hit for much much more. (Enough to one shot incap a fully enhanced charactor with armor in pvp!)

I thought melee were supposed to be the hardest hitting players in the game? Quote: "If you catch something, they'll die, if not.....It's a trade off for the power of close range."

Funny, they must have changed thier minds, because this isn't the case anymore.

You know, in terms of PvE, I've never felt that Pikemen lagged too far behind TKA. Just the other day, I was out hunting humbabas with a TKA friend. At the time, I was 2-0-3-2, and my TKA friend was (I believe) 1-2-2-1. I outdid him in terms of damage about 2/3 of the time. Neither of us were using specials, and we both had good weapons.

Now, I seemed to take far more damage then my TKA friend. Whether that was because I was the one who abosorbed most of the attacks or if it was because our defense suxxors, I don't know. But I definitely needed to heal myself several times, whereas I only used one stim on my friend.

Ashar, wait until your friend hit's 1-2-3-1. He will get much faster.

Yep, TKA absolutely rules. Ive put Pike on hold and am having fun in combat (goin TKA for a while)for the first time since the "9/4 KD nerf/Pikeman Gimp" Patch. Compared to TKA, Pikeman is in dire need of some Dev love.

I wouldnt call it "whining", I'd call it "envy"

Heh, us melee folks need to stick together. The last thing we need is our own calling nerfs on each other.

Fixes, not nerfs.

I agree that melee types need to stick together, Uttrik. If you read the above posts carefully, I think you'll realize that no one was advocating nerfs to TKA; they just want to get a little more love for Pikemen.

I can understand why you'd be a bit paranoid, though. We too have felt the sting of the nerf bat, and it isn't fun...

Pike men get +20 melee defense and TKA get +30

Pikemen get +22 Polearm toughness and TKA get +56

common guys....throw us a bone.

PLUS we can't even knock them down but they heve no problem knocking us down.

Not too mention that you can fire off an entire arsenal of speicals in the time it takes to get one Pikeman hit/special in too.

I am a TKM on the Intrepid server and I absolutely agree that TKAs are the most efficient melee class around, but it's not that we are stronger, its that you guys are in need of some serious fixes. But, this arguement could be turned against any profession. Just because your weapon accuracy is screwed up, doesn't mean it gives you the right to go around and whine about other professions who are, well, not so screwed up as you.

Still whining about TKs eh ArkMindSpear?

You need a new line.