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Thread: that riflemen defence bug was it fixed

StGabriel
Thu Feb 12, 2004 2:25 am
#1

It is being looked at but I don't believe there has been a fix yet.



StGabe.



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whyhellothere
Thu Feb 12, 2004 2:50 am
#2

well at least it being looked at - but honestly - riflemen should be much easier to beat up in melee - i got no probs with em otherwise - infact i reckon they should have an increase of range so they can actually shoot further than a pistol. But the idea that i make myself better defensively in melee by unequiping my lance and equipping a rifle is not only unbalanced but a joke.

plus i may as well rant - im pretty damn successful in pvp - and they just made me tougher - what were thet thinking of doing nerfing bleeds like that - my poisons are just as good as ever, and now people are barely gonna hurt me through 90% armour(i got a 22 damage bleed from a master riflemen today - scary eh)

on a positive side - looking forward to imp crackdown - im a reb but i think i have a masochist side.

and while i havent picked up any new player made polearms i picked up two DOT vibrolances today - and they had range mods of -24 i think - whatever it was it was significantly better than the -39.

and i rant - honestly defense stacking does not need a nerf(maybe tweaking), i attack my TKA friend who has defence 166(i know thats not uber but still kinda high) witha -54 lva(i have +13 in mods) and i can hit consistently. so in pvp people should just use decent accuracy weapons(if a class doesnt have some - that needs to be fixed)

and if this bleed nerf stays can u see a billion pikemen happening as people grab DOT lances to bipass 90% armour, in addition to their being millions of riflemen(mainly seems to be what i pvp these days) and CM.

sorry bout the rant - i love this game - but nerfs kinda stink

Ikewa
Keto_Jax
Thu Feb 12, 2004 6:16 am
#3

Hold on a sec... what rifleman defence bug?


I fought a rifleman the other night, and I couldn't hit him. I thought it was some sort of problem with my machine. It's a bug? Is it just against Pikeman?





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keto jax
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antares_Kauri
Thu Feb 12, 2004 10:59 am
#4

When they removed the 2.5X melee penalty against riflemen, they intended to add a melee to-hit bonus, so instead of taking more damage, they would just be easier to hit by melee attacks. However, it seems to be reversed, and when you use a rifle in melee, even if you have no marksman skills, you are much harder to hit than with your master elite melee class. Get a CDEF rifle and try it.

antares
master pikeman



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whyhellothere
Thu Feb 12, 2004 1:43 pm
#5

i havent tested it yet?- anyone - i seemed to be hitting defence stacking riflemen with my vl today - which is nice - so i thought that bug may have been fixed(or maybe im just imagining in hope that i am hitting more).

Ikewa
OutbackWookiee
Thu Feb 12, 2004 1:44 pm
#6


Probably your imagination. Just to be sure go check it out.






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whyhellothere
Thu Feb 12, 2004 1:56 pm
#7

just did a totally unscientific test - went and wacked a gurk lair - got 6 on me - auto-attack lva barely got hit(probably 1/10 i got 186melee defence), then switched to rifle - didnt get hit at all.

In my honest opinion - if that is true - its a **edit**ing joke.

Ikewa
antares_Kauri
Sat Feb 21, 2004 2:05 pm
#8

I get hit much less when I equip a CDEF rifle than with my pike. I've tried it out, others have too. It's a noticeable decrease, and even the rifleman forum acknowledges this. The to-hit increase for melee against rifle was reversed and became a not-to-hit.


antares
master pikeman





|Pikeman non-stop since July, 2003|
|combatUpgrade::alpha :: JTL::beta :: RotW::beta :: ToOW::beta|
SOE Producer Dallas Dickinson says:
"I mean, what is a pikeman and why is it something in the game?"
gillamonsta
Sat Feb 21, 2004 5:58 pm
#9

rifle bug for sure.....i have 208 in both range and melee def.....i get hit 1 out of 5 against sisters with pike....and never get hit when using rifle
Trimble
Sun Feb 22, 2004 1:27 am
#10

Are you guys sure it is a rifle bug and not just defense stackers? The guy earlier said he had something like a 186 melee defense. Even if he switches weapons, he would still have the 186 melee defense.


I am a master rifleman right now, and in combat, PvP or PvE i get hit an awful lot ( my melee defense is only around 60). that might be something to consider.





Eron "The Mooch" Bastion
The Man Forgotten

OutbackWookiee
Sun Feb 22, 2004 2:53 am
#11


The new posts by TH indicate that melee fighters will receive a bonus when attacking ranged opponents.


I wonder if the rifle fix will be a part of it?





LegwandLongfellow
MasterPikeman/Brawler
TKA/Fencer/HeavySwordsman
There'sabigblackholegonnaeatmeupsomeday
Somedayfadesaway,likeamemory


whyhellothere
Sun Feb 22, 2004 3:43 am
#12

yeah legwand read publish notes - appears to me that that bug will be fixed - ooooooooooo so niiiiiice.

Ikewa
StGabriel
Mon Feb 23, 2004 4:27 am
#13

I assume that this is a polite way of saying that they fixed the bug.

StGabe.



--- The Clan McDonnell ---

Gaffyn McDonnell -- Master of Blades (master fencer/swordsman/brawler)
Flynn McDonnell -- Master Weapon Smith (+22 exp), Armorsmith (+25 exp)
Lorrinne McDonnell -- Nightsister (pike/doc)

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