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Thread: What Center of Being Does

rfajr
Tue Feb 24, 2004 3:14 pm
#1

I'm a master pikeman; been one for about a week. I was curious what Center of Being does for a masterpikeman. I didn't find anything to explain it in the FAQ, so I did a test. I hope some of you find this useful.


The relevant skill mods are:

+115 Block

+115 Polearm Center of Being Efficacy

+ 25 Ranged Defense


The test:


  • I dueled a rifleman at 20m.

  • He took 200 shots at me: 100 while center of being was on, 100 while center of being was off.

  • No specials were used by him just autofire.

  • Both of us were standing.

  • I recorded misses and the damage numbers above my head. Later i checked the combat log to denote the hitsas hits with or without counterattack.

Some other relevant assumptions:



  • Counterattack in the combat log means block.

  • Block means that damage from the hit is reduced 50%.


Results:


  • CoB doesnothing to make you harder to hit.

  • CoB doubles your chances of executing a block. In fact, at master, you block almost every hit.

Data:


Hit

--------------------------------------------------------

COB Miss without Counterattack with Counterattack

---------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------

On 18 1 81

Off 19 40 41



However:

I don't know how much of the results are due to CoB, block, and ranged defense mods. I just know that in the combination described above these are the likely outcomes.




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antares_Kauri
Tue Feb 24, 2004 3:20 pm
#2

Nice work. The CoB efficacy increases our secondary defenses (block) by that amount, so at master it is precisely doubling the value, hence your observed results.

antares
master pikeman



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Tathar_Ahlon
Tue Feb 24, 2004 3:51 pm
#3

cool info



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No1JOkeR
Tue Feb 24, 2004 5:06 pm
#4

/cheer


Good stuff





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Log1c
Tue Feb 24, 2004 7:25 pm
#5

Thanks for the test... good to know..

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Braglor
Tue Feb 24, 2004 9:18 pm
#6


sweet I love tests!


Good work


Message Edited by Braglor on 02-25-2004 05:18 AM

Danga_Manew
Tue Feb 24, 2004 9:31 pm
#7

block actually does something then?



ign: Danga

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Braglor
Tue Feb 24, 2004 9:36 pm
#8







Danga_Manew wrote:


block actually does something then?



yes, at Master level with CoBit reduces 50% moreof your hits with 50% damage.. isn't that great?

Danga_Manew
Wed Feb 25, 2004 8:32 am
#9

Hoping that was sarcasm?


I was always under the impression it just didnt work, yeh I had noticed the dmg reduction but on counter-attacking? Maybe I need to review combat reports more..



ign: Danga

Pikeman / Doctor

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antares_Kauri
Wed Feb 25, 2004 8:43 am
#10



Danga_Manew wrote:
Hoping that was sarcasm?
I was always under the impression it just didnt work, yeh I had noticed the dmg reduction but on counter-attacking? Maybe I need to review combat reports more..




That is what it has always done, it just reduces incoming damage by 50% when you block ("counterattack" in your log). The debate about it working stems from the fact that counterattack/dodge avoid 100% of incoming damage.

antares
master pikeman



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|combatUpgrade::alpha :: JTL::beta :: RotW::beta :: ToOW::beta|
SOE Producer Dallas Dickinson says:
"I mean, what is a pikeman and why is it something in the game?"
Braglor
Wed Feb 25, 2004 8:57 am
#11







antares_Kauri wrote:


The debate about it working stems from the fact that counterattack/dodge avoid 100% of incoming damage.



Hence the use of expressions like "bugged" or "working as intended" in conjuntion with pikeMans "block".

antares_Kauri
Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:18 am
#12

Exactly.

antaresssssssssss
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SOE Producer Dallas Dickinson says:
"I mean, what is a pikeman and why is it something in the game?"
Danga_Manew
Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:32 am
#13

heh yer I'd much rather have swordsmans counter :]



ign: Danga

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