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Thread: Switching to Pikeman...Stat Migration question
I want to migrate my stats to be a better pikeman now that I have Mastered Artisan and was curious if anyone had suggestions as to what level I should migrate my stats to. Any help would be great.
Redondo
Redondo wrote:
I want to migrate my stats to be a better pikeman now that I have Mastered Artisan and was curious if anyone had suggestions as to what level I should migrate my stats to. Any help would be great.
what specie are you? Human, zabrak, wookie... I am a zabrak and this is my migration:
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=21435
I've found that the big questions are thus;
1. Are you a doctor/medic as well as pikeman and will u be healing yourself and others?
2. Will you be using a pet to tank?
Based on these questions if you are a doc/medic put yer health/action around 900-1000(depending on race) and your secondaries in the 500 range, and your mind around 800 or so with your secondaries around 550.
If you are not a medic and/or will be having a pet to tank drop your mind down to about 550 and your focus/willpower down to about 450 and dump half into health and the other half into action and bring your h/a secondaries up to 550-600 range.
Of course all of this depends on what race you are, wooks get very nice boosts to the ham and zabraks willpower gets a huge boost no matter what.
Good Luck
Legwand Longfellow
Master Pikeman
~Doing it with a big stick~
Legwand wrote:
I've found that the big questions are thus;
1. Are you a doctor/medic as well as pikeman and will u be healing yourself and others?
2. Will you be using a pet to tank?
#1 I am a novie medic with a specialization in pharma(+40 medicin useage). This gives me the ability to use stimpackDs(experimented down to 40 med skill & 800++ heal). I never heal others, except if they're my friends and need assitance. the Ds are to valuable to go around using on entertainers in cantinas 
Since I am a healer, I have no need for regen from constitution and stamina, therefore those are placed to an absolute minimum. Again, a healer needs a strong mind, so highwillpower to regen fast between the heals is preferably for me. Some might want a huge mind and a smaller regen rate.. It's all about taste and playstyle.
#2 I am not a CreatureHandler and I don't like pets very much either as they have somewhat "ruined" melee charactersrole in this game... I mean, it's been a while since somone asked ME (a pure melee character) to "tank" for them. Wonder why...
We've been over this in another thread, but I'll rehash it again. It isn't your Pikeman skills that let you kill two Krayt dragons, so don't pretend it as such in your signature.
That's like saying you owned a bunch of ranged users in PvP with your unarmed skills, when you're also a Master Commando.
Sorry, I forgot to mention I am human. I dont use medic much except for Org Chem to get to Bio Engineer. I plan on using Artisan much less now and focusing on Mastering Pike. I was just curious about the HAMs because I have never played a brawler type character before. For artisan I had migrated my Action up for surveying and now, thank god, that is over with, but my health suffered greatly and I find myself getting killed in combat consistently, pets or no pets.
Anyways, thanks for all of the suggestions and I will keep my eyes on the forum for tips on how to be a better pikeman.
Redondo
Master Artisan/Novice Brawler
well... any one who is a doctor should NOT put there stats "900-1000"
You are a doctor... you can buff. So? But all your stats iin mind ful as you can. Then you can buff yourself any time and you have even with the weakest buffs over 1k in all stats and substats over 500. If you are a good doc, you can giver yourself 2-3k in Health and Action, and have the 1100 mind from normal stats.
Why more people don't do this? Only down side is fast striking after you clone in say PvP. But Pikeman aren't really the PvP so much 
so that isn't a problem for most. I PvP, but I never die, becuase I am smart. Pikeman have to play smart to PvP because we start out without the upper hand.
Erh... the way I remember it I used my pikemanskills when I brought those beasts down. I'm not sure I understand you correct, but I do not have any ranged attacks. No Pets did Iuseeither, except for my mount. As for the saying that it wasn't pikemanskills that didn't kill the krayts, well that's your opinion but I am having problem with understanding why you insist I am pretending to use other skills. Basically it was a use of bleeds and leghits that killed the krayts, and if that isn't pikemanskills for you, then well I think you need to look over your skilltree again. As for the extra mods I get from my other professions, well, they didn't exactly kill the beast as they would have been worthless without the pikeman skills.
Dynastar wrote:
We've been over this in another thread, but I'll rehash it again. It isn't your Pikeman skills that let you kill two Krayt dragons, so don't pretend it as such in your signature.
That's like saying you owned a bunch of ranged users in PvP with your unarmed skills, when you're also a Master Commando.
Erh... the way I remember it I used my pikemanskills when I brought those beasts down. I'm not sure I understand you correct, but I do not have any ranged attacks. No Pets did Iuseeither, except for my mount. As for the saying that it wasn't pikemanskills that didn't kill the krayts, well that's your opinion but I am having problem with understanding why you insist I am pretending to use other skills. Basically it was a use of bleeds and leghits that killed the krayts, and if that isn't pikemanskills for you, then well I think you need to look over your skilltree again. As for the extra mods I get from my other professions, well, they didn't exactly kill the beast as they would have been worthless without the pikeman skills.
What I think he was getting at is the fact that without the defense from the other melee classes you have you would not have been able to do such a feat without a lot of luck. You did use Pikeman for the kills, I will grant you that, but you are generalizing that a Pikeman isn't bad by itself, but you also have a few other helpful skills involved. I bet he would not complain if your sig said that Pikeman don't stink if you have TKM skill to combine with it.
I am also willing to bet with your current setup you could kill the krayts with your TKM title up and using VK as your weapon. Possibly with less effort on your part since. Though I can't back that up at all.
ShogaOLayth wrote:
Erh... the way I remember it I used my pikemanskills when I brought those beasts down. I'm not sure I understand you correct, but I do not have any ranged attacks. No Pets did Iuseeither, except for my mount. As for the saying that it wasn't pikemanskills that didn't kill the krayts, well that's your opinion but I am having problem with understanding why you insist I am pretending to use other skills. Basically it was a use of bleeds and leghits that killed the krayts, and if that isn't pikemanskills for you, then well I think you need to look over your skilltree again. As for the extra mods I get from my other professions, well, they didn't exactly kill the beast as they would have been worthless without the pikeman skills.
You did use Pikeman for the kills, I will grant you that, but you are generalizing that a Pikeman isn't bad by itself, but you also have a few other helpful skills involved.
I am also willing to bet with your current setup you could kill the krayts with your TKM title up and using VK as your weapon. Possibly with less effort on your part since. Though I can't back that up at all.
Whenhesaidhelpful skills I assumedhe meant from other professions than the pure novice brawler/pikeman climb? Well, a person who uses 92 skillpoints just to get the master pikeman title and then uses the rest of his 158 skillpoints to get master musician, will without a doubt have a harder time killing krayts than me.I am not sure heread my tactic for killing the krayts, butthe procedure is mainlyto use warcry and knockdown, bleed them andspam leghit3. It is not aneasy task to complete, but it is not impossible either.
As for a TKA using a VK to solo a krayt, let me just say ROFLMAO and wish them good luck soloing krayts 
I don't thinkeven a master TKA would come close to the damage we PikeMendo to the actionpool of any given creature. A master TKA would probably use the unarmedhit3 on the krayt anddeal out random hits to all 3 HAM pools, whileamaster PikeMancan focusthe damage into only one pool and even bleed it.
krayt diff lvls:
juvenile 175
canyon 275
ancient 350 [95% all res] ..this one is going to be a tough one for the masterTKA without any bleeds
Im zabrak and if u are too... get atleast 750 mind... you'll get mind incaps consistantly in pike as you'll see...at the same time try to keep ur health above 800... as well as your action.. WE REQUIRE ALOT of HAM for moves...
personally i got 1000 health 1000 action and 750 mind