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Thread: Just dueled a fencer friend :(

SuddnDeath
Sat Mar 19, 2005 4:08 pm
#1

Well i used to duel my fencer friend when i was a tkm and i wooped his butt. Then i became a fencer myself and we had very long fights and it was always a 50/50 chance of who won. Now im a pikeman and well........


I cant hit him at all

i swing at slow.0

i do 50 dmg to him without armor and 5 dmg to him with armor

he ownz me everytime without question


I have +80 speed at the moment with a 3.0 111-380 dmg pike but hell even with a 1500 dmg pike you would still only do maybe 40 dmg to him . I sure hope the CU fixes this.


BTW i realize im not speed capped but i do know i swing at about 2.0.



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Rebster
Sat Mar 19, 2005 4:13 pm
#2

Really? I've never had a problem with fencer's, intim,stun all the time and try and ge ta dizzy knock, then either area 2 or leg hit. Always help to lay a few DoT's Also helps to have a high damage pike and definetly speed capped.



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NeemaToad
Sat Mar 19, 2005 4:31 pm
#3

lol intimidate +fire +warcry



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SuddnDeath
Sat Mar 19, 2005 5:01 pm
#4

well tried to intim him atleast 20 times but he was invuln to intim it seemed and posture change and kd were impossible to land on him. Also i dont use dots in duels.



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Rebster
Sat Mar 19, 2005 5:43 pm
#5

3 things:

Speed cap
High damage pike
DoT's




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annelid0
Sat Mar 19, 2005 6:19 pm
#6


Rebster wrote:
3 things:

Speed cap
High damage pike
DoT's


All that to deal with a run-of-the-mill fencer....

Something's wrong with that.



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ventilador
Sat Mar 19, 2005 6:23 pm
#7

im not def stacker because i ahve merchant on my template but this was a duel me vs a staker-fencer


im speed capped, 40% stun armor, foods, and 1100 dmg VL


i start the duel and landed 1 intimidate of 6 while i was already dizzy,stunn blind and itim,

i start with a warcry 1 it sticks and start to make area 2 for dizzy/stunn, for the 10 seconds no stat dint got him and each attack was doing 30 dmg, warcry go off and he starts hitting me around 300 dmg per hit, i was hiting him 2/3 of times with acuracy food, and for no more than 100 dmg, i dint last more than 2 minutes and i lost


its cool to know that i lost to someone that have a weapon with 1/4 less power than mines


250 max stun baton vs my 1100 VL



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raldurrm
Sat Mar 19, 2005 7:36 pm
#8

I can beat fencers and TK while blinded, as long as they can be stunned pikeman can win if they stay unstunned.



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ventilador
Sun Mar 20, 2005 9:18 am
#9

good tip, blind is what kills me against stackers



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XwingRogue3
Sun Mar 20, 2005 9:38 am
#10

You don't need dot's to win. Yea it is tougher to beat them but come on, using a dot to beat someone is pretty lame if thats the only thing you are relying on to beat them with. Try actually using skills to beat them rather than poisoning, burning or diseasing their mind.



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NasherUK
Sun Mar 20, 2005 10:09 am
#11





Fencer is really hard to beat (or even hit) as a pikeman, for some reason dodge is really really good vs pikes, even worse for the pikeman if your blinded. The fact that pikes have like -24 accuracy doesnt help either. Oh yea and the other fact that the damage pikeman does, everyone has 80% resist to it (you can have armor with 80 kinetic, 80 energy and 80 eletricity at the same time), kinda defeats the whole idea that pikeman are supposed to be hard hitters doesnt it

What they need to do is remove the default 80% electricity from comp armor, but I guess after the CU its all going to change anyway.

Message Edited by NasherUK on 03-20-2005 09:15 AM

Kaukiji
Sun Mar 20, 2005 10:17 am
#12

yep, i THINK they will be getting rid of mitigation in the CU, this should prove to be interesting for us pikemen....i find mitigation and intim kill my damage while using my 900 max LVA. but what you guys really have to do against a fencer is keep them intimidated, cap on speed & get as much accuracy tapes as possible, then just stun/dizzy and pray to get a kd or posture


ignore my edits...i needed to test some HTML stuff somewhere lol

Message Edited by Kaukiji on 03-20-2005 03:27 PM



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o2machine
Sun Mar 20, 2005 12:15 pm
#13

i have a 1750 dmg lva and it alway does the job just fine... or you could say it compliments my dots nicely.



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