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I'm constantly being told it isn't working right, but I'm learning this is just not true.

Yes it is being reported wrong in the combat spam as 'counterattack' but it does indeed block damage and does indeed work in conjunction with armor.

Here's a shot I took just now showing this (I hesitated to say what I felt was the truth until I had more proof, here it is):

http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=31595&poll_id=0&warned=y

As you can see under the counterattack messages armor is still absorbing some of whatever is passing through. Because this is happening after the counterattack, I believe it is taking a percentage of the damage that passed through the block (I think half) and applying the armor to that, which makes it pretty impressive in my opinion. It's still not as good as dodge but it's a lot better than 'broken' as a lot of people are stating.

-Shi

Yep. But is that the way it's intended to work? Probably.
We've known that it takes 50% damage absorption and armor reduction for a while. Thanks for the combat log.

We still need to do some real standard, quality tests, but what you said seems to be the way it's "working". Stupid block...

antares
master pikeman

Ah I did not know the supposed indescrepancy was between the log and what happens.

I'll try to see if I can catch how much is going through and how much is popping above my head.

Best way to test would be on high end creatures that hit hard, or maybe pvp. I'll see what I can come up with.

-Shi

The best way to test is with a friend who can hit you a few times and know exactly how much damage he did to you, and you compare that with how much actual HAM you lost and how much your armor blocked when you "block".

antares
master pikeman

Block does work, however, it sucks.

For some reason they decided that even though Dodge and Counter attack effect Melee, Block shouldn't. I wouldn't mind it that much if block didn't still let through 50% of the damage from Ranged attacks.

Block doesn't even work that often, I have 165 Block and I block less then 40% of Ranged attacks, and before I took up pikeman I think I blocked about10%only with Master Rifles.

i think if we dont have 100% dmg avoid we should get something that they dont like state blocking like i have stated over and over

Here's what I don't get. In PvE, block halves the damage I take. Pretty easy to see, just let something whomp on you for awhile. Most creatures do a pretty tight damage range, so it's easy enough to see what's hitting for full and what's hitting for about half that. I found a falumpaset to be a pretty effective test partner.

On the other hand, I did a test duel being shot with a carbine. One shot, compare logs, repeat. I blocked a large number of these shots, but not once did it matter. I took full damage every time. Both cases were without armor.

Just curious if anyone else has noticed this discrepancy. In PvE block does something (I can't bring myself to say it "works"), in duels it had no effect. Or did I screw up my tests somehow?