Pikeman Archive
Thread: Melee's role
Tka has no dot
TKA's biggest attak is about 1800 dmg
What combos? dizzy -- lunge maybe
TKA is just fast and accurate... these are good things it turns out in this game since attacks randomly ignore armor the more you make the better chance of finding a hole.
Pikeman accuracy makes no sence to me how hard is it to at least hit somting with a huge stick, i agree the other classes need an unique tree like meditate i've said this before.
Also think pikemen need more toughness
Tanking as a Pikemen isn't necessarily as impossible as most of us make it seem to be. Sure, standing up to a Giant Krayt Dragon or Kimo results in a call for a rez within seconds, but used right, we make (half) decent tanks. As it stands now, I can hold my ground against most tough creatures. My ubese armor has a delicious 74% resistance vs. Kinetic, making me take damage in the single or double digits from most of my hits, and even though KD was violently bludgeoned with the pointy bat of nerfing, swatting something with sweep1 and then immediately using warcry keeps them down for at least 10 seconds, more than enough time to do decent damage against something, hit it with a powerful bleed, or get some easy hits in. And since KD can be used every 30 seconds, that's cutting their attacks to 2/3, couple that with intimidate and you have a serious reduction to damage output, not even counting armor. As for the horrible accuracy issue, I decided to pick up Ranger to help with that. Hitting something with a Glow-Wire or Wire Mesh Trap before going toe to toe seems to really help my melee accuracy, resulting in a lot more successful sweep1/warcry1 combos. Hunting with a competant medic works out fine for me, and fortunately for us, at least we can taunt things off of people unlike CH pets.
Sure, ranged characters can kill us from across a field before we can get close enough to *bruise* them, but I wouldn't expect them to. Fortunately, in cities or otherwise confined areas, pistoleers and bh's are welcome to run away from me and take advantage of my not being able to hit them, but it's not too difficult to get within range of lunge, knock them down, warcry them, and step on their necks before they know what happened.
I completely agree that the weapon-wielding melee classes are way underpowered and need some serious reworking, and that TKA is amazingly overpowered compared to the weapon melees.
Sure, let TKA have their meditate and their devastating combos and ability to hit every pool. What I would really like to see is something MORE unique for the weapon classes. To a certain degree, the melee classes can do more or less the same thing, but "specialize" in something.
A great deal of melee abilities are shared somewhat between the melee classes. Fencers can dizzy and 1 handed lunge to knock something down, just as well as a pikeman can. Swordsmen and Fencers can both spin as well as Pikemen, just without the once-every-30-seconds KD effect. Pikemen can dizzy before knockdown if they use area2.All of them have 2 bleeds of the same pool. All of them have spin attacks. All of them have a pool target. All of them have specific state attacks.
I'm lacking in specific ideas, but anything unique would be a welcome addition for me. Limiting each class' state effects would be a start, but would have to do something else to make up for the loss. Perhaps extending the range of Polearms (which really wouldn't help us in PvE though) or making them wieldable from mounts (which is probably not feasible either) Possibly giving one or all of the classes some kind of defensive ability, like a defensive stance kind of like the reverse of berserk, reducing damage output greatly but increasing the chance to parry or something along those lines sounds like a very feasible idea. Possibly giving Pikemen a cripple attack (we do attack the legs), Heavy Swordsmen some kind of non-intimidate accuracy debuff (some kinda head trauma), and Fencers some kind of dizzy that works on creatures (but with a 50% or so chance of falling when trying to get up).
I'm done rambling. This rant will not be read by any dev, nor will they care even if they do. Just my 2c