Pikeman Archive

Thread: DEVS: There is something seriously wrong here.

atimes
Mon Mar 01, 2004 9:29 am
#27

Yeah KD/DIZZY KD/DIZZY UH3 UH3 UH3 UH3 UH3 UH3 UH3 UH3 DB


"I PWN J00 N00B I GOTZ SKILLZ"


Yeah the "talent" just oozes from their ears. . .


And I'm a TKM

Dynastar
Mon Mar 01, 2004 11:07 am
#28

Christ, this is so **edit**ing stupid.


Nothing takes skill in this game.


The playbook for melee reads like this:


/unarmedknockdown2 /unarmedhit3 /unarmedhit3 /unarmedhit3


or


/warcry /favorite-spam-attack /favorite-spam-attack /favorite-spam-attack


or


/centerofbeing /blah /blah /blah




Ramsey Logan
By Federal Law, Riflemen do it with 16 inches or more!
Master Pikeman
Jhaan-Kreii
Mon Mar 01, 2004 12:04 pm
#29

he talking about an attack for 800, not a special...i myself have hit for 12k with my looted pike, and about 5.5k with my crafted on, that has a 28% dmg slice....per second



Jhaan Kreii
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DarthTaosin
Mon Mar 01, 2004 2:49 pm
#30

If he's talking about a normal attack for 800 EVERY SINGLE SECONDhe's just plain wrong.


I don't care what kind of pike you have, goddamn it, you won't get HIGH END DAMAGE every time!!!


Example: I have a 150-800 damage Long Vibro axe and it's 4.5 speed...


First, if you want ANY DAMAGE to apply every second you better have a lot of +polearm speed (more than the pikeman trees give you) and you better be extremely accurate, else YOU CANNOT POSSIBLY attack every second. More like every 2 seconds at best. So you just cut that 800 in half to 400...


Second, 800 is the HIGH END damage, you have to average it out. The range is 650 so divide it in half and add it to the lower end. Your average becomes 325+150 or 475... NOT 800.


Sooooooo, you average 475 damage every 2 seconds...


This is 262.5 damage per second without specials. Before resists an armor apply.


800?


Did you guys take ANY math in school?


I mean, why argue, it's OBVIOUS Pikeman are getting the shaft on the damage end.


I don't care if you do 12k with your 'looted pike' because I've already stated that Pikemen and Women shouldn't have to rely on looted equipment, since no other classes do.


The crafted special weapons for pikeman plain suck. Energy lance is a joke.


Well whatever, you guys can argue all you want, and convince yourselves that everything is OK with pikeman.


But it's not.



Taosin
~ Dathomir Expert ~
~ & ~
Rare Items Collector

Ranthalas
Mon Mar 01, 2004 9:20 pm
#31

I only have one thing to say on this matter.. if you think pikeman works right, do me a favor. Jump on the scylla server, make a wookiee char and take pikeman, once you've reached master, come to coronet and challenge ANYONE and I mean ANYONE (other than another wookiee pikeman) to a duel. If you beat them as a wookiee with pike, and no assistance let me know how.



Jaberwookie
~After years of searching I finally found happiness in the form of the most beautiful twi'lek I have ever seen. Thank you for making me the happiest wookiee alive Cady~
Zalana
Mon Mar 01, 2004 11:07 pm
#32

At no point in time do I imagine pike is working right. I do know that with our aresenal of DoT weapons and some decent armor / buffs we can be a force on the field.


As for wookies, well, I just don't know what to say you all are on the wrong end of the lance.




Three accts - Cancelled - Thanks for all the fun

Oh and I will never buy another SOE product again, or SONYproducts or recommend them to anyone ever again
OutbackWookiee
Tue Mar 02, 2004 12:14 am
#33






Ranthalas wrote:
I only have one thing to say on this matter.. if you think pikeman works right, do me a favor. Jump on the scylla server, make a wookiee char and take pikeman, once you've reached master, come to coronet and challenge ANYONE and I mean ANYONE (other than another wookiee pikeman) to a duel. If you beat them as a wookiee with pike, and no assistance let me know how.







I don't disagree with you one bit. In fact, I don't disagree with the original poster (as much of a dink he may be).


Somewhere, somehow, someone in this thread got the impression that I said (or think) that pikeman are uber. Far from it. If this was true, then why would I have to augment my skills, as a pikeman, with those from other professions.


The point I was trying to make before (and will vainly, no doubt, make again), was not to judge a book by its cover.


Just because I'm carrying a pike doesn't makeme weak.




LegwandLongfellow
MasterPikeman/Brawler
TKA/Fencer/HeavySwordsman
There'sabigblackholegonnaeatmeupsomeday
Somedayfadesaway,likeamemory


Danga_Manew
Tue Mar 02, 2004 8:06 am
#34

Taosin just....go away.. really..


give a flying **edit** if we're outdamage by swordsman and tka, stop trolling you silly little man, like I said if you don't like it don't play it. We're obviously quite happy with it so why do you have to come moan for noone cares, bye now.





ign: Danga

Pikeman / Doctor

New Valour
Ranthalas
Tue Mar 02, 2004 7:11 pm
#35

The problem is a lot of people really aren't happy with it. Sadly pikeman is a class that COULD be really cool. We have some of the best looking specials, the coolest looking weapons and it really can be a fun class to play. The main problem is, its not working right. Something in the basics of the class are messed up. I ended up taking pikeman as part of my holo grind, I've seen become so stubborn and determined to master this silly class that I really don't care anymore if it helps me make Jedi or not.


I really do see a lot of potential for a pikeman as a support class/tank if they could just get the damage and accuracy worked out. After watching TKA get the boost its gotten, and watching many many other classes get a decent amount of love its hard to sit back and watch pikeman get basically ignored. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the changes to the weapon schematics that were made last patch, they certainly help a little bit, but having been a master weaponsmith as well, I can tell you that it gets frustrating knowing that you're making a weapon that can be beaten out by a looted item. Something needs to be done.





Jaberwookie
~After years of searching I finally found happiness in the form of the most beautiful twi'lek I have ever seen. Thank you for making me the happiest wookiee alive Cady~
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