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Thread: Why we pikeman need to get fixed

Dynastar
Thu Jan 27, 2005 5:26 pm
#14



VacaXXX wrote:


Kautan wrote:
Get speed capped, and start swinging a 900 damage LVA and you'll see why we dont' need any nurfing.
~Kautan Henzlee Master Pikeman


yeh, we dont need nurfing b/cause it doesnt do any damage against good composite!



Bingo.

Christ, aside from fighting Jedi or DOTs, who actually dies in PvP from health or action damage?



Ramsey Logan
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frog169
Fri Jan 28, 2005 1:31 pm
#15


he just dont beat them cuz he sucks..... be a speed caped pikeman then talk. cuz if u were speed caped like i am u would have no problem throwing dots on them.. im pikeman,brawl, novie fencer, and 3020 doc. i rarely get beat. only people who can beat me are people with better dots and more dmging weapons.


pikeman is good vsall thenight sisters, and jedi. i know a friend who can hit jedis for almost 1k EACH hit. his hits range from 7-1400. if you want to hunt elders get a energy lance, elders at 25% to energy.


as for your "4. Range Defense. This should be for all brawler profs because if we get attacked by a rifleman, we are done."


if we get ranged def they get melee def, then we wont be hitting anyone for anything, if u want ranged def be a tk/fencer or if u want medigation go pike/rifleman.



what i do think we should get is a stronger single stat pool hit, like a health hit, or even a head hit.

Message Edited by frog169 on 01-28-2005 12:33 AM



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GrendelsMother
Mon Jan 31, 2005 8:17 am
#16

Does he suck, or maybe he does not want to be a walking PVP template such as yourself?? The biggest problem with this game is the combat engine has turned into a one trick pony. Wear composite armor and get your buff, pick from one of the three combat stacker templates and off you go. What does someone such as myself, master creature handler and pikeman with a very strong distastefor compositearmor andlooted DOT pike weapons do for PVP comabt?? No answer, except to sit in a cantina and watch the fighting outside....



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I continue to play this game out of love for my professions.

When the "New Game Enhancements" go live, I will leave this game.
You can give it a pretty name, but it does not hide your shame...

"I mean, what is a pikeman and why is it something in the game? The only other profession we didn't absorb into one of these iconic templates is the creature handler and only 1% of our players play that character type."
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BizzyNinja
Tue Feb 01, 2005 12:42 pm
#17



MaksmanDemon99 wrote:
1. Accuracy for our weapons and for us is not that good
2. THe only two types of weapons we have our electric and kinetic. Therefore, we can't hunt down NS elders because they hav 100% resists, and we are the ones who specifically need their loot.
3. Defenses. How come 2 brawler proffesions can get good defenses and we can't. What really pisses me off is how pistoleers get a +50 defense vs knockdown. THey don't need it, we do, they attack from a distance.
4. Range Defense. This should be for all brawler profs because if we get attacked by a rifleman, we are done.
5. Toughness. We by far have the worst toughness.
6. Area Attack and spin attack or the SAME THING (practically).
7. Leg hit does not do as much damage as a swordsmans mind hit or a riflemans mind shot, or a tka mind hit. And also, action is easy to heal, so we are doing no good attacking a healalbe pool.
8. Stacking. Remove it. I am a Master Pike/ Combat medic, but i will lose most of the time because i don't have as great defenses as stackers. Defenses for a prof should appl y when that weapon is equiped.
THE END





2.) Energy Lance
3.) Pikeman have fairly decent defenses. I'd say they have better defenses than Swordsman...and more state defenses than TKM.
4.) Can't have it all...every profession has it's weakness. Go pick up a def tree from another profession.
7.) Fencers can target health pool...very easy to heal.
8.) Stacking is fine the way it is. You're sacrificing your defenses by picking up Combat Medic. Don't cry out nerf because your template isn't own all uber. Defense stacker's weakness is dots...that's what you can do. Get a new template rather than cry about it.
Fremen_Feyadkin
Tue Feb 01, 2005 12:55 pm
#18






MaksmanDemon99 wrote:

1. Accuracy for our weapons and for us is not that good

The accuracy is fine for pve and for pvp just get speedcapped and start using your AOE attacks with your dots, no problem there.

2. THe only two types of weapons we have our electric and kinetic. Therefore, we can't hunt down NS elders because they hav 100% resists, and we are the ones who specifically need their loot.

NSEL

3. Defenses. How come 2 brawler proffesions can get good defenses and we can't. What really pisses me off is how pistoleers get a +50 defense vs knockdown. THey don't need it, we do, they attack from a distance.

Our massive offense capablities with 600+ LVAs in pve or mindfires/poisons in PvP more than make up for lack of defenses. Get defenses from another prof if it really bugs you.

4. Range Defense. This should be for all brawler profs because if we get attacked by a rifleman, we are done.

Same thing as above for offense/defense tradeoff.

5. Toughness. We by far have the worst toughness.

See above.

6. Area Attack and spin attack or the SAME THING (practically).

You're complaining about an AOE stun/dizzy?!

7. Leg hit does not do as much damage as a swordsmans mind hit ora riflemans mind shot, or a tka mind hit. And also, action is easy to heal, so we are doing no good attacking a healalbe pool.

Dot pikes drop very consistently from dath witches, so targeting a specific pool isn't an issue.

8. Stacking. Remove it. I am a Master Pike/ Combat medic, but i will lose most of the time because i don't have as great defenses as stackers. Defenses for a prof should appl y when that weapon is equiped.

As said before, you're doing something wrong. Even a master pikeman shouldnt lose to stackers, let alone a CM! Get proper buffs, food, armor, dot pikesand unless they are a doc or jedi you'll destroy them.



THE END








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Grozurr
Sun Feb 06, 2005 12:19 am
#19

oooh man...i saw the title and the only thing i could think was...

"I DON'T WANT TO GET FIXED!!! DO YOU PEOPLE SEE THOSE POOR DOGS WHEN THEY COME OUT FROM GETTING FIXED?!?!?!?!"

sorry...a bit too late for me...

/ontopic


Grozzer Agoutt
Kauri
MBE/Sentinel
Rince_uk
Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:00 am
#20


Without wanting to sound like I am flaming, this just sounds to me like someone would like to have their cake and eat it.


What would be the fun in being the best in everyting with 1 profession? I don't do PvP, just PvE but I would like to be able to hunt NS's - I took up Swordsman as well for Blast dmg. I want to make sure I can heal myself, so I took Medic 2x4x. Found I was getting knocked down by some really high end mobs, so I am grinding Fencer x44x...


I am having so much fun with this template, it's not even funny! I can solo everything I have come acorss so far, with the exception of Elders. I do massive damage with my 895 LVA - you wanna see how quick I can take down 4-5 enraged rancors - just spin, watch 'em fall...


Try changing your template if you are unhappy with what you have!



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Abdullahsmith
Wed Feb 09, 2005 10:59 am
#21

Pick up another Profession for More Dmg Types... Thats all I can say.


Def? Pick up some def like Pistols or Fencer.


You want a head hit Pick up Rifleman or Swordsmen.


KD/Dizzy with your Dot pike.


headhit# or HS3 While he is on the ground.


TKA mind hit




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BizzyNinja
Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:05 pm
#22



frog169 wrote:
he just dont beat them cuz he sucks..... be a speed caped pikeman then talk. cuz if u were speed caped like i am u would have no problem throwing dots on them.. im pikeman,brawl, novie fencer, and 3020 doc. i rarely get beat. only people who can beat me are people with better dots and more dmging weapons.
pikeman is good vs all the night sisters, and jedi. i know a friend who can hit jedis for almost 1k EACH hit. his hits range from 7-1400. if you want to hunt elders get a energy lance, elders at 25% to energy.
as for your "4. Range Defense. This should be for all brawler profs because if we get attacked by a rifleman, we are done."
if we get ranged def they get melee def, then we wont be hitting anyone for anything, if u want ranged def be a tk/fencer or if u want medigation go pike/rifleman.
what i do think we should get is a stronger single stat pool hit, like a health hit, or even a head hit.

Message Edited by frog169 on 01-28-2005 12:33 AM





Melee/Ranged Defense does not cut down damage in any way...
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