Pikeman Archive

Can anyone add these stats for pikemen so we can compare?

Again, I'm not advocating nerfing swordsmen. If that was how you took it, please understand that was not my intent. I would just like fencers to do almost as much damage per second as swordmen is all. Leave swordmen how they are, or increase their DPS as well.

Freinds i was wrong, apoun investigation the Lv3 hit is about the same for every oen except polearm does get X3 whereas the others get X4, BUT, we get a posture down status effect built into ours aand stun.....the others, one gets dizzy the other two get blind.

But now our posture down move only works every 30 seconds and we only force them to kneel since we can not hit them twice down to prone, so it looks like the devs have once again(or still?) screwed us.

That posture down woulda been sweet though.....till last week.

Thanks for the info Ark. Can you or anyone elseliststats for the pikeman's weapon of choice unsliced, including damage speed, and armor piercing? Just stats from a good version, not the very best out there will do.

That isn't good that you give up x4 damage for x3 and a posture change with all the nerfs. Hopefully something will be done about that. But I'm still interested in comparing the different melee classes.

OK, found some stats for a LVA. Let me know if this is typical or not. Damage of 101-363, speed 4.4 medium armor piercing. Using these stats, the DPS for the master fencer, swordman, and pikeman are as follows:

Regular attack vs. AR0 = 117 Fencer /352 Swordman / 330 Pikeman

Regular attack vs. AR1 = 59 F / 281 S / 264 P

Hit3 vs AR0 = 468 F / 563 S / 395 P

Hit3 vs. AR1 = 234 F / 450 S / 316 P

So, a swordman will always have a higher DPS whether you just autoattack, or spam hit3. Fencers only come close to the swordman's DPS if they are spamming specials against unarmored opponents. Pikemenare at a disadvantage because their hit attacks (1, 2, and 3) have a lower damage multiplier. Pikemen might be best off just autoattacking with good armor on and using specials sparingly. The gain in DPS is probably too small given the HAM costs of their specials. Swordmen are not, however, at least twice as good as pikemen. They do however, have an edge over pikemen and fencers.

Dillos, the real issue lies, not in the DPS, but the accuracy included. Brawler, Fencer and Swordsman can all hit their targets with impunity at Master, Pikeman however, well, I'll get some stats in a few days for you w/ logging, but from what I've figured out so far, I miss about 47-49% of my attacks overall. This is against yellow cons. You should see me fight red cons, it goes up to like 55%. I've once missed Polearmhit7 times in a row, ran out of HAM just trying to use it.

Raise your habd if you wish the devs cared.

they'd rather spend time on tweaking player mount animations........who cares about swordsman is how many times better than pikeman.....accuracy? HAM cost? same range as TKA? KD timer? low dmg? toughness? not enough weapons too choose from?? HAHA

devs r not stupid, they know what we are going through.....but you know...they are just too busy doing something more important than fixing up your little pikeman thing

and if they really dont know what they've done to melee/pikeman, they need to hire some real game designers....i mean if it's easy enough for any player to figure out wat's wrong with the design.......why is it so hard for them to notice the problem?...why need us to cry n swear on the msg board just so they would feel a need to do something about it?

Argh, I almost wished this thread hadn't been posted. KD nerf didn't do it, but this thread did -after reading this, I got a 2h sword and started learning 2handed style. Even with just the level 3 brawler skill, I'm about as effective with the sword as I am with my vibro axe - about a million points of polearm xp making no real difference. Its sad and will probably drag me away from the pike. Especially now that my commando friend is so powerful now.

Don't know about you all, but I can only stand on pride alone for so long. I'll keep my LVA and novice pikeman for as long as I can though, in hopes the devs realize that an entire elite profession has one foot in the grave.

another thing that really sucks is i get like 1 Exp from anything i fight that dosen't have a 60% chance of winning.

Rot mites con dark blue to me, if i miss much at all 3 of them can inccap me, but if i kill them i get 3 Exp! that is BS. I used to get a couple thousand for Gug Drolgs....now that I have the ability to fight them i am lucky if i get 300! The only way to get decent Exp is to go to a wreched planet where every one and everything kills us to get decent Exp. Or we can stand behind a pet and get TONS of exp. As long as NOTHING aggros us, becouse then it is over. You can use knockdown once, and after you get done missing and they get done resisting it and you finaly hit they stay down for almost 2 seconds(WOW!) and you can eaither stand there and get quickly killed becouse you cannot take the damage a pet can, or try and run wich dosen't work too well nayway since most things can out run you anyway and your burt run practically kills you and if have been hurt much at all you or didn't use sunburns while TRYING to knock them down you will not have unuff HAM anyway and it is all just getting very old. It is the same thing every day. Each patch I pray and hope that they will do something to give us an advantage of some kind at some point, but each patch we get taken down a notch or two anyway. And i could deal with it till the knockdown nerf. I can agree that it did need to be worked on, but they Overkilled it entierely and since the same patch i have been missing at least twice as much as before.

Ark pikeman 4/1/2/2

run on sentance?