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Thread: My new DPS!

avallo
Tue May 11, 2004 6:08 pm
#14

Thanks for clearing that up
annelid0
Tue May 11, 2004 11:37 pm
#15


Legwand wrote:

The weird myth came from the fact that most people, myself included, were doing more damage prior to publish 8.

Something may be out of whack with the code, but I'm not doing 4x on my hit 3.



Is that based on testing, or is it just an overall impression? I didn't believe it was at 4x either until actually looking at the numbers themselves, but they're very consistently showing 4x.

If anyone can produce evidence that shows PH3 is currently at a 3x modifier, please do, because that would be a major problem. It's not a hard test to do, just spam PH3 for awhile and record the highest hit, divide that number by 1.86, and then divide that by the max damage of the weapon.



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Cphyr
Wed May 12, 2004 8:18 am
#16



Doratos wrote:
that is WAY off for unarmed, as this says ill do like 400 per second with my VKs....thats obviously way off, tkas can easily do 2k+ per second






You left out the +Unarmed Damage Bonuses TKA get; no other profession gets similar mods.



Cphyr' (yes includes the ')
OutbackWookiee
Wed May 12, 2004 9:15 pm
#17






annelid0 wrote:




Legwand wrote:

The weird myth came from the fact that most people, myself included, were doing more damage prior to publish 8.


Something may be out of whack with the code, but I'm not doing 4x on my hit 3.





Is that based on testing, or is it just an overall impression? I didn't believe it was at 4x either until actually looking at the numbers themselves, but they're very consistently showing 4x.

If anyone can produce evidence that shows PH3 is currently at a 3x modifier, please do, because that would be a major problem. It's not a hard test to do, just spam PH3 for awhile and record the highest hit, divide that number by 1.86, and then divide that by the max damage of the weapon.






Yeah, I did it tonight. I'm getting a 3x multiplier on my hit 3, whereas before publish 8, or so, I was getting 4x.


From a 588 max damage LVA, I'm maxing out at 3200-3300 on hit 3. I was doing well over 4k before.


You do the math.




LegwandLongfellow
MasterPikeman/Brawler
TKA/Fencer/HeavySwordsman
There'sabigblackholegonnaeatmeupsomeday
Somedayfadesaway,likeamemory


annelid0
Wed May 12, 2004 10:36 pm
#18

Man, that's weird as hell. What where you fighting during this test? I'd like to see if I can replicate it somehow. If only some of us are getting 4x while others are stuck at 3x that's pretty nasty.

Anyone else able to confirm having either a 3x or 4x modifier on PH3?



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Ilykerrimo
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Masochistic Wookiee

Jadkia
Thu May 13, 2004 7:57 pm
#19

I use a 550 or so LVA and I know I have been getting 4k+ hits with PH3. Theuy aren't very common but not rare, and no they aren't only when the mob is knocked on it's ass, that's usually when I get a min damage hit



Jadkia Dengraar
Master Pikeman , Brawler 0004 (Previously Mastered)
Master Doctor, Master Medic
Mastered but no longer have Entertainer, Image Designer, Scout,
Smuggler, Commando, Marksman, Creature Handler, Artisan and Tailor
OutbackWookiee
Thu May 13, 2004 11:40 pm
#20






annelid0 wrote:
Man, that's weird as hell. What where you fighting during this test? I'd like to see if I can replicate it somehow. If only some of us are getting 4x while others are stuck at 3x that's pretty nasty.

Anyone else able to confirm having either a 3x or 4x modifier on PH3?






Fighting nightsisters. Thats all I fight anymore.


Isn't that all that anyone fights anymore?




LegwandLongfellow
MasterPikeman/Brawler
TKA/Fencer/HeavySwordsman
There'sabigblackholegonnaeatmeupsomeday
Somedayfadesaway,likeamemory


avallo
Fri May 14, 2004 4:37 am
#21

In PvP I just use aoe hit 2 until I figure out the modifier on hit 3
OutbackWookiee
Fri May 14, 2004 8:44 pm
#22


Oh, heres a question.


How does the resist factor into the equation. If I'm fighting something that has 25% resists, that could knock down the damage nes pas?


When I get on tomorrow, I'll find something to kill and spam some hit 3s and then post the log. See what we can come up with.





LegwandLongfellow
MasterPikeman/Brawler
TKA/Fencer/HeavySwordsman
There'sabigblackholegonnaeatmeupsomeday
Somedayfadesaway,likeamemory


Arhagellos
Sat May 15, 2004 8:21 am
#23

Well yes, but the damage on the combat window is the actual number you land on the enemy. The number as it is calculated after reductions for AP/armor/resists and bonuses from AP is the one floating over the target's head. So you'll see a 2500 whether you hit a Dewback or a Nightsister Elder on the combat window, what matters is that you'll probably see a 4k flying over the dew's head while thin air floating over the elder.



Nerelith Vel'Et'Aril
Master Pikeman
Sentinel of Horus

OutbackWookiee
Sun May 16, 2004 12:51 pm
#24


I went and killed a bunch more things tonight. I think I may be still doing 4x on my hit 3.


I nailed a few rebbies for over 4k dmg, so it's got to be working.



The thing is, since publish 8 I've fought nothing but nightsisters and never thought about their resists knocking down my damage or whatnot.


So, disregard everything I've said here I guess ...


*runs out of thread*





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MasterPikeman/Brawler
TKA/Fencer/HeavySwordsman
There'sabigblackholegonnaeatmeupsomeday
Somedayfadesaway,likeamemory


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