Pikeman Archive

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Abcel wrote:

i have +139 dizzy defense +148 stun defense and +149 blind defense as well capped on polearm speed/accuracy with the fs accuracy line

with a 1391 max lva i can take down most full template knights

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ACK so wasteful the cap for all of those is 125...

Message Edited by HeavyCleavage on 04-12-2005 09:32 PM

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MaksmanDemon99 wrote:

How? I was facing some Jedi Sentinel, and he pulled out his saber and i just watched my mind reach zero. I had a 950 max damage sliced and pupped LVA, and it seemed that i couldnt hit him ,or my damage was nothing. Do jedi have like melee mitigation 10 or something. and i almost killed the guy too, with my mind fire, but in the end he told me he used some force move called "Avoid Incap" Do jedi really have that, and if so that is a cheat, it is seriously a cheat, in this game, if anyone reaches zero, they incap. Well other than that, i need a step by step guide on how to fight from jedi padawan to masters. Also, if any of u are pike geniuses tell me how to fight before CU and how to fight post CU.

thnx

cerex henrix

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Jedi have absolutely no melee mitigation.

The jedi you were facing was a Master Defender. He's got a ton of jedi toughness on top of his lightsaber toughness so he'll be taking in a lot less damage than other jedi. There isn't much you can do to them when they're on avoid incap. Your best bet would be to stay alive as long as you can and let them drain their own force. Since they have a ton of melee defense, it will be hard for a pikeman to hit them. Always keep him intimidated and stack as many dots on him as you can (preferrably fire). If you're still alive, he'll be blackbarred and will have barely any ham left. Make use of warcry to delay him if he's hitting away at your mind too hard. Eat up a couple synthsteaks throughout the fight... and if your tummy is getting full, then toss some protein wafers in there. You might need snow cake as well for that extra accuracy.

Most Master Defenders will have 4004 healer in their template. One thing these guys lack is channel... once they're low on force... they will no longer be able to avoid incap. IMO, a smart MDefender would eat pikatta pie and melee defense food over any synthsteak or damage reductions. These guys will be VERY hard to hit for pikeman. You will have to rely on your dots and when it comes down to doing the actual damage. Get the stun on him which will lower his defenses and make it easier for you to hit him. Try to keep him on his back as much as possible, make use of sweep for the KD and if he gets up... use a lower posture (hit 3 or lunge) to get him on his knees. NEVER let intimidate off of him. Since he's on avoid incap, he does not have to worry about defending himself. As long as he's on his knees or standing, he'll always be on the offensive and therefore keeping you to heal yourself to stay alive.

Manage your food well, eat synthsteak well before the fight (it lasts 1hour). Continue to take brandy, have a muon or pixie ready in case you get in trouble.

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MaksmanDemon99 wrote:

How? I was facing some Jedi Sentinel, and he pulled out his saber and i just watched my mind reach zero. I had a 950 max damage sliced and pupped LVA, and it seemed that i couldnt hit him ,or my damage was nothing. Do jedi have like melee mitigation 10 or something. and i almost killed the guy too, with my mind fire, but in the end he told me he used some force move called "Avoid Incap" Do jedi really have that, and if so that is a cheat, it is seriously a cheat, in this game, if anyone reaches zero, they incap. Well other than that, i need a step by step guide on how to fight from jedi padawan to masters. Also, if any of u are pike geniuses tell me how to fight before CU and how to fight post CU.

thnx

cerex henrix

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-OMG NUBBERY! Good thing I left Starsider for Bloodfin.

First, I am not giving hints to help you beat a jedi because i am one. Second I was a master pikeman till i made jedi. I love the prof and never tried to beat a jedi because i am not a hater. The only time i would fight a jedi is when i was pvping and they showed up. I say stop worrying about beating jedi and lean to play as a pikeman. You seem to not have a clue how to do it.

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HeavyCleavage wrote:

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Abcel wrote:

i have +139 dizzy defense +148 stun defense and +149 blind defense as well capped on polearm speed/accuracy with the fs accuracy line

with a 1391 max lva i can take down most full template knights

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ACK so wasteful the cap for all of those is 125...

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Even more of a waste since your states are immune to jedi at +90...

Message Edited by Tork1 on 04-14-2005 04:30 PM

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Cryzid wrote:

Original Poster...

I started trying to write the guide you wanted but about 3 lines in I realized just how long that would be. Feel free to login to Valcyn and give Hsaza a /tell and I'll walk you through some basics/scenarios.

Some hints tho if you wanna spend some time figuring it out on your own:

Food:

Steak

Brandy

Thak

Equip:

LIGHT HAM armor or none

Medical clothes

Stims (janta if you can)

High resist armor for paddys or Imps that pull ATSTs

Pike

Bomb droid

PSG (if you're into that...personally I'm a proud ADK PSG wearer)

Strategies:

Opportunity is always best...unbuffed, afk, (not loading or LD..don't be lame), when they are in combat

Keep them intimidated

Don't let your health drop below half

Start the fight empty on food/drink

Warcry to get off an unsticky intim or heal

Use your states...those are your killers not just the dmg

Those are the basics..put them together and you have yourself a start

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you need to eat citros snow cake as well so you can actually hit the jedi

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PhYFiI2e wrote:

well, jedi have no mitidigation at all. They do have a power that is called avois incap, and it somtimes keeps you from getting to 0 hp, it stopps at 1 and starts to regen. He must have an ass load of melee defense and you must not be accuracy capped if your hit wernt landing. He was probaly eating all kinds of stat enhancing food. But its really tough to beat a jedi as a pikeman if they are knight or stronger...

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aekeem wrote:

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Cryzid wrote:

Original Poster...

I started trying to write the guide you wanted but about 3 lines in I realized just how long that would be. Feel free to login to Valcyn and give Hsaza a /tell and I'll walk you through some basics/scenarios.

Some hints tho if you wanna spend some time figuring it out on your own:

Food:

Steak

Brandy

Thak

Equip:

LIGHT HAM armor or none

Medical clothes

Stims (janta if you can)

High resist armor for paddys or Imps that pull ATSTs

Pike

Bomb droid

PSG (if you're into that...personally I'm a proud ADK PSG wearer)

Strategies:

Opportunity is always best...unbuffed, afk, (not loading or LD..don't be lame), when they are in combat

Keep them intimidated

Don't let your health drop below half

Start the fight empty on food/drink

Warcry to get off an unsticky intim or heal

Use your states...those are your killers not just the dmg

Those are the basics..put them together and you have yourself a start

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you need to eat citros snow cake as well so you can actually hit the jedi

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neofghtr816 wrote:

im also pretty positive that Avoid Incap is only available for 30 seconds, then the Jedi has to hit it again, if he/she has the force, or lay down and take it

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It lasts 30 seconds, but it can be stacked. Cost around 750 force... and as long as you have that much, you can keep it going.