Pikeman Archive

Thread: Anyone tested the pikeman fixes on Test Center?

Viconnius
Tue Dec 09, 2003 11:26 am
#14

Those has NOT been added to server yet as I understand...notes mentions Vehicles being available to players among things. Just look at the list, and judge yourself. It was also posted after last major publish, and it said there might be changes before publishgoes alive.


Secondly I have not at least noticed any increase in skill numbers...


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=TestCenter&message.id=40623#M40623


Also you can check actual whats been patched, from history here:


http://patch.starwarsgalaxies.com:7040/patch/web/swg/motd/patch_message.html


Someone please clarify if I got it all wrong

Viconnius
Tue Dec 09, 2003 12:07 pm
#15

Err, vehicles are not in. And several other things listed are not to my knowledge in either.
antares_Kauri
Tue Dec 09, 2003 12:17 pm
#16

Everything under *polearm*

antares
master pikeman



|Pikeman non-stop since July, 2003|
|combatUpgrade::alpha :: JTL::beta :: RotW::beta :: ToOW::beta|
SOE Producer Dallas Dickinson says:
"I mean, what is a pikeman and why is it something in the game?"
atimes
Tue Dec 09, 2003 12:30 pm
#17

When bounty hunters complained about the LLC and commando's about their weapons we were not told that was a weaponsmith issue. The devs removed the rare components AND improved the weapon in the heavy weapons fix that made BH's and commando's so happy. It wasn't a weaponsmith issue it was a dev issue.


Besides weaponsmiths have already tried to inform the world about how some weapons are gimped because of crappy broken schematics/resources (ever heard of the "elite" carbine) to no avail.


I still feel the devs simply have no idea how much we miss plain and simple.


Remember the high negative accuracy mods are "not intended" and are supposed to be "looked into". I guess it's a very complicated system to change that -50 to a -30 or a -10 or something because they are obviously still looking into it.

antares_Kauri
Tue Dec 09, 2003 12:57 pm
#18

I have seen a player-made LVA with -35 range mods, but the damage was in the mid 200's and the speed was a little over 5 - not a good trade-off at all in my opinion. They tried to remedy the issue by just increasing our accuracy bonuses, which worked to some extent. This only helps the high-level pikemen, those who have yet to accumulate those accuracy points are in the same situation as before.

I doubt the accuracy mod values are something that would take a while to fix. I cannot see how this could be difficult, it's just that they have more important things to take care of than worrying about changing a few numbers for a small percentage of players, I guess...I was pleased when the combat dev said he didn't like the negative mods, but nothing has come of it. After following the various correspondents working with the combat dev concerning the armor rating/piercing system, I think some of the devs are a little out-of-touch with what is actually happening in-game and will not believe what the players say is going on, even when hard data is presented.

antares
master pikeman



|Pikeman non-stop since July, 2003|
|combatUpgrade::alpha :: JTL::beta :: RotW::beta :: ToOW::beta|
SOE Producer Dallas Dickinson says:
"I mean, what is a pikeman and why is it something in the game?"
atimes
Tue Dec 09, 2003 2:46 pm
#19

This only helps the high-level pikemen, those who have yet to accumulate those accuracy points are in the same situation as before


BINGO

atimes
Tue Dec 09, 2003 2:53 pm
#20

I want to be a pikeman. No holo drove me here I want to do it. I'm enjoying TKA and I want to be a pikeman along with it.


I've been a bounty hunter, a carbineer and I was a master marksman for months. I'm currently master brawler and halfway through TKA and working towards novice pikeman and it sucks. The root issue of all my grief is the fact that I miss 5-6 times in a row all the time. I didn't have that problem with BH, carbineer, marksman, TKA or any other brawler profession. Working up the tree with the horrible accuracy really and truly does suck for an up and coming pikeman.


"Just use a regular lance". Well guess what. It's slow doesn't do much damage and it's not that great either.


You know how I'm working up to novice pikeman. I'm doing destroy missions and cleaning up the mobs with TKA skills and taking out the lair with my LVA. Everytime I try to kill a mob with a lance after the 4th straight miss I get fed up and switch back to my VK's.

antares_Kauri
Tue Dec 09, 2003 3:07 pm
#21

I feel your pain, at least you have something to fall back on. Imagine doing that before buffs/good armor/etc and you had no other skills. That's just what I went through and there were times when I wanted to break my keyboard because of how many times I would miss in a row or die to something very easy.

Hehe, back then I sent in CS tickets and /bug'ged the entire class many times out of pure frustration. Some of my /bug reports were along the lines of: "Surely you couldn't have possibly designed this class to be so weak and miss so often, it has to be a bug."

But really, you should make a special request to a master weaponsmith to make a very good regular lance, I have seen some that were very impressive, but I think you'll have to make a special request.

May the sunburns never run dry...

antares
master pikeman



|Pikeman non-stop since July, 2003|
|combatUpgrade::alpha :: JTL::beta :: RotW::beta :: ToOW::beta|
SOE Producer Dallas Dickinson says:
"I mean, what is a pikeman and why is it something in the game?"
atimes
Tue Dec 09, 2003 3:28 pm
#22

I followed the advice of CLab and went over to the weaponsmith forums.


I put in a post on their current issues and PM the correspondant and told him to rethink his position.


He said the horrible accuracy must be working as intended because of the intense damage pikeman can do.

antares_Kauri
Tue Dec 09, 2003 3:34 pm
#23

Which, if that is there stance, is disappointing (read: wrong) because the power hammer does more damage and has the accuracy of the VL. Maybe the VL will be boosted to have the same damage rating as the LVA. That would be nice, huh? Doesn't make much sense, as they stated on the weaponsmith forum, for the one elite weapon we get to be easily outclassed by a 3rd-tier base-class weapon that is also harder to use.

antares
master pikeman



|Pikeman non-stop since July, 2003|
|combatUpgrade::alpha :: JTL::beta :: RotW::beta :: ToOW::beta|
SOE Producer Dallas Dickinson says:
"I mean, what is a pikeman and why is it something in the game?"
raider7734
Wed Dec 10, 2003 1:58 am
#24

They should have fixed the LVA a long time ago.They fixed the swordsman's powerhammer, it used to be -40,now they run about -31and hitting things is not a problem.There's no reason they can'timprove the LVA in a similar way.





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Braglor
Thu Dec 11, 2003 1:23 pm
#25






antares_Kauri wrote:
Doesn't make much sense, as they stated on the weaponsmith forum, for the one elite weapon we get to be easily outclassed by a 3rd-tier base-class weapon that is also harder to use.



indeed
Metalrat
Thu Dec 11, 2003 6:59 pm
#26

Anyone that believes weaponsmiths are to blame for the bad to hit modifiers on weapons needs to have their reality check bounced.








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