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Thread: Why would a MPikeman/Swordsman Use a Pike?

FallenJediGuard
Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:36 am
#14

personally I just like using my polearms. I've been a master swords/ master pike for a while and ahve a decent pre-cu ph but I prefere to use my Kamonian great staff if for nothing else then looks.



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Hochi-schu
Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:56 pm
#15

lower sac. better damage per action cost. most of the PH's i have seen have been 100+ sac and any of the ones under 100 have been worse damage than my 998 VL.



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quitch
Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:50 pm
#16






Hochi-schu wrote:
lower sac. better damage per action cost. most of the PH's i have seen have been 100+ sac and any of the ones under 100 have been worse damage than my 998 VL.




those Phs were probably looted off meatlumps, not crafted by good crafters. Phs ive seen have had like 95 SAC with like 1150 damage, mine = 87 sac 1009 max damage (dunno if i said that in this thread yet).



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Obi-don
Thu Aug 25, 2005 12:20 pm
#17

I'm Mpikes/Mswords/4000 doc.

I use my VL more than my PH.

VL:

1122 max, 528 mod dps, 1.66 mod speed, 94 SAC


PH:

1188 Max, 454 mod dps, 2 mod speed. 104 sac

Until I get my hands on a better power hammer, I would chose my VL for now. Unless anyone thinks different.

(Both are pupped BTW)

I also forgot to mention im speed capped on pikes

Message Edited by Obi-don on 08-25-2005 12:25 AM



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Shaggscoob
Tue Sep 06, 2005 2:28 pm
#18

hm, thanks for the advice guys. I guess mainly what I was looking at was the mods of pikeman vs. swordsman. Inherent mods on swordsman are like 2x. In fact I don't think any other prof gets fewer weapons specific mods as pikeman. So, what you guys are telling me then is that the mods don't matter it's all in the weapon? I like hte sound of that because pikes are way cooler. My KG is so extremely sweet.



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jmonty
Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:54 pm
#19

i was going to say 'because polearm defense is more than 2 handed defense' but it is only 65 vs 50..




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Remters
Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:27 pm
#20

lol i didnt read all the posts but most of em i did and i just have to say are you all stupid or what i was that temp i use a CU sliced Poisinspike or a NSEL CU sliced and either way i owned( i had armor on me 7k resist everything) you lose so fast with a PH out you literally have no defense what so ever even with m pike! basically the PH is something you use when their low on mind and you need to hammer them down bad for a faster more garunteeable fight! .... Remters utters "DUH"!!!!!!!! i had a pre cu PH to that was 1275 max damage unsliced unpup'd with a SAC of 92 and a est. dps of 479!! that seems to be the best way to go but it isnt you hit hard but anyone including a lvl 40 could deal atleast 500 damage to you straight on in PvP!! with decent plus armor!



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Wombatula
Fri Sep 09, 2005 5:07 am
#21

because pikes are eleventy billion times cooler than PH are.



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trifidac
Sat Sep 10, 2005 5:11 pm
#22

Because you would prefer to look cool dying with a pike? The animations even with swordsman and TKA attacks are fantastic with a pike, the power attack is probably my favorite kind.




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Shaggscoob
Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:37 am
#23






trifidac wrote:
Because you would prefer to look cool dying with a pike? The animations even with swordsman and TKA attacks are fantastic with a pike, the power attack is probably my favorite kind.




you know, I have been trying both since my first post. I got +25 gen. melee speed and accuracy tapes, and then got +25 polearm and 2-handed acc./speed. I ADK'd a suit of battle armor with 6500+ stats all around (and put the tapes in the armor), so I could get a good overall feel. I used a powerhammer with 1175 max/92SAC/2.0 speed (pretty decent hammer, could have better SAC, but oh well). Then I used a sliced kaminoan greatstaff with 1020 max/85SAC/2.2 speed. I did my tests 3 days in a row in the geo bunker (good mix of high level enemies). I found I just had a better balance with the staff. I mean my mods are better with the PH, but another 20 defense makes very little difference. It takes hundreds of defense to really affect your viability (like the 500 I get from ICOB, and the 120 I get from improved sword flurry). All around, I'd say the pike was just as good.



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Someguywholivesontatooine
Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:07 pm
#24






Remters wrote:

lol i didnt read all the posts but most of em i did and i just have to say are you all stupid or what i was that temp i use a CU sliced Poisinspike or a NSEL CU sliced and either way i owned( i had armor on me 7k resist everything) you lose so fast with a PH out you literally have no defense what so ever even with m pike! basically the PH is something you use when their low on mind and you need to hammer them down bad for a faster more garunteeable fight! .... Remters utters "DUH"!!!!!!!! i had a pre cu PH to that was 1275 max damage unsliced unpup'd with a SAC of 92 and a est. dps of 479!! that seems to be the best way to go but it isnt you hit hard but anyone including a lvl 40 could deal atleast 500 damage to you straight on in PvP!! with decent plus armor!




As my alts a MAS, I would be really REALLY interested to find out how you get armour with +7k to everything.



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Saramar
Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:29 pm
#25






Shaggscoob wrote:

they're just so much cooler






you may have just answered your own question


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BrenStarslagger
Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:47 am
#26






OriahTundra wrote:





Nerf_Happy wrote:

long chain of quest. start in ryatt trail from the proton carbine guy. if you don't like space, this aint for you.






Hmmm i dont mind space. Now might you be able to point out the ryatt trail? And the proton carbine guy? lol



Also im a noob, whats up with the acronyms? Pup, etc?








The Ryatt Trail is at the top of the map of Kashyk, its a POI so easy to find. The quest starts when you talk to Carl Mosik just inside the Ryatt trail gate. Be warned it is a long series of quests which you will need to be cl80 for, a groupwill definitely help with some of them. And as stated above you will also need to be a pretty good pilot as well.


On the plus side you get some good loot including the Kiminoan Great Staff. And if you finish the space quest at the end you get the badge for killing Lord Cyssc.


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