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Thread: New TK weapon

engeneer
Wed Aug 18, 2004 6:06 am
#14

i know its cool to have weapons but c'mon people UNARMED means no weapons


i dont complain but it isnt really realistic



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Atama
Wed Aug 18, 2004 1:47 pm
#15


"i know its cool to have weapons but c'mon people UNARMED means no weapons"


I'll give the standard answer to this all-too common complaint.

First off, Teras Kasi means "steel hands". What's more appropriate than covering your fist in a metal blade?

Secondly, there is no such thing as an "unarmed attack". Even if you're not holding anything in your hand, your hands and feet are weapons themselves. So you can never literally be "unarmed", ever.

Finally, a vibro knuckler is not really a weapon, technically. It's a damage enhancement. Your fist is still doing the damage, the knuckler is merely adding damage to it. It's like putting a spike on an axe; the spike adds extra damage to the axe, but it's not a seperate weapon in and of itself. The game mechanics even support this: a VK's damage is simply added to the damage that the TKA would normally be doing without the VK.



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Oufeic
Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:37 pm
#16

We really need another dmg type, I really do not care if this is dropped to about the norm for VK's but as armour is almost always 80% kinetic resis atleast tk's really need another dmg type for PvP purposes, otherwise we really cant scratch anyone :/



Yhâp
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Atama
Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:40 pm
#17

Well, armor is usually 80% everything else too. Another damage type isn't going to help much in PvP unless you start asking us to have lightsabers, and trust me, you do NOT want to go down that route.



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Ryutek
Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:45 pm
#18






Atama wrote:
Well, armor is usually 80% everything else too. Another damage type isn't going to help much in PvP unless you start asking us to have lightsabers, and trust me, you do NOT want to go down that route.





Heh, I almost choked when I first skimmed over the post. Brought me a good chuckle after I reread it though



Ryutek

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Oufeic
Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:46 pm
#19

Truthlly TKM is the most useless PVP profession standalone except kd now...Im unsure what he problem is but I can barely scratch anyone in a GCW conflict. Its possible that we get some kind of new weapon with AP2 or somethin or well TKM will become redundant with fencer (stun) pike (poison disease fire) swordman (blast with excellent mind hit)...

TKM isnt as good as it once was really



Yhâp
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mixmastermonkey
Wed Aug 18, 2004 6:47 pm
#20






SLK wrote:
First off, it is realistic, and used in fighting.

Second, this VK was made with a NS motor dropped from an elder, using a rare schematic and the best resources out there. This would be one of the best you will ever seen, and with a good 30% damage slice on it it would probably surpass 300..





NS elder motors were needed to make one, not optional. Hopefully they wont be mandatory once the CB comes out

Message Edited by mixmastermonkey on 08-18-2004 06:47 PM



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GrayFox9420
Wed Aug 18, 2004 7:26 pm
#21


mixmastermonkey wrote:

SLK wrote:
First off, it is realistic, and used in fighting.

Second, this VK was made with a NS motor dropped from an elder, using a rare schematic and the best resources out there. This would be one of the best you will ever seen, and with a good 30% damage slice on it it would probably surpass 300..
NS elder motors were needed to make one, not optional. Hopefully they wont be mandatory once the CB comes out

Message Edited by mixmastermonkey on 08-18-2004 06:47 PM


Last I heard, these new knucks won't require any ordinary loot motor, but the Nightsister Vibro Blade Units that only Axkva Min, the Nightsister Queen herself, drops.
Maybe they've changed this requirement and I didn't hear it, but if it's still true, it will limit availability somewhat. She's a fairly tough cookie for those who aren't properly prepared.



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Atama
Wed Aug 18, 2004 8:21 pm
#22


"Maybe they've changed this requirement and I didn't hear it, but if it's still true, it will limit availability somewhat."


Nah, you wanna know what limits the availability?

THEY'VE BEEN REMOVED FROM THE GAME.




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GrayFox9420
Thu Aug 19, 2004 5:34 am
#23


Atama wrote:

"Maybe they've changed this requirement and I didn't hear it, but if it's still true, it will limit availability somewhat."


Nah, you wanna know what limits the availability?

THEY'VE BEEN REMOVED FROM THE GAME.



LOL, only until the Combat Balance.
Who am I kidding, we'll never see these things on live...



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Ryutek
Thu Aug 19, 2004 6:39 am
#24






GrayFox9420 wrote:

Who am I kidding, we'll never see these things on live...



Well, I'm planning to. I just hope my plans and the Developers' plans sync




Ryutek

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No longer holding out hope, SWG will never be the game we fought so hard for, that we believed so much in. Farewell friends.



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Spuzzed
Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:51 am
#25

No no, what they need to do is give us a lightsaber knuckler. It should be 900-1000 damage and AP 3. Then when the nerf crys come we can just stand in the middle of starports wielding the colours of the rainbow, all the while laughing, laughing at the pathetic mortals who WISH they could be like us, but the thing is the devs will put a cap on the amount of TKA there can be and that cap will be the same as the amount of TKM we have now. We will become more uber than Jedi and ALL will /bow before us, even TH!!!! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

*re-reads his post and think that waking up so early wasnt a good thing....*
Ryutek
Thu Aug 19, 2004 10:11 am
#26



Spuzzed wrote:

*re-reads his post and think that waking up so early wasnt a good thing....*




Maybe not, but I got a good laugh



Ryutek

Former Teräs Käsi Correspondent, Circa 08/2004 to 02/2005

No longer holding out hope, SWG will never be the game we fought so hard for, that we believed so much in. Farewell friends.



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