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i wanted to do something offensive cause theres little other point to pick up a weapon as a creature handler (does that make a difference in your opinion? im not gonna have many points cause imma go MCH and MBE)

so i wouldn't do defensive skillmods anyway... Also, for pve, bleed is pretty important and for pvp, mind-bar dmg is pretty important... so right now i'm only weighing the above facts with the KD... and the KD nerf... thoughts? ultimately, this will end up being "do whatever you want" ... because thats what im going to do.. but i am looking for more insight on things that i dont know about to help me decide.

also, do we think theyre gonna move the scythe to its rightful position under the polearm line?

Yes picking up a weapon along with ch would make a HUGE diffrence, pets arent really good damage dealers unless your pvping and then your opponent can hurt them even moreso.Their main use inPvE combat is pretty muchjust damage sponges.

If your only going for the bare minimum for MBE/MCH you'll still only have enough points to go up 1 tree in another elite combat class & while I like having more people join our not often chosen profession I cant reccomend it to you, we generally rely on our specials & large hits to keep up with the other elite melee professions & with only 1 skill tree you wont have enough specials or hit accurate/fast with a LVA/VL enough to do well.

If I was in your shoes and was dead set on going into melee to compliment MCH/MBE I'd go into 2hand swords & get Intermediate swordfinesse for mind bleed 1 and expert sword defense for head hit 3

coool... thanks for summarizing my last week worth of hunting on the boards and talking to people... i actually did come to the conclusion that (based on what i heard), i should drop pikeman for swords and (based on what I thought seemed best-fitting) that I should get mindhit 1 and headhit 3... i'm glad someone could reaffirm my uncertainties... I guess i'm done deciding hehe... i'll be back after the patches change things...

and thanks again (yeah, thanks to everyone else who helped me with my decisions)

Just out of curiosity, are you picking up your weapon skills primarily for PvE or PvP? If it's PvP, I'd go with Swordsman for the mind damage. If you're primarily doing PvE, however, I'd definitely go up the Pikeman Defense tree. The sweep attacks are, IMHO, make for a much better compliment to creatures than any other tree in Swordsman or Pikeman, plus the defensive mods will hopefully keep you from getting ganked when you walk up to help your pets.

Just my two cents...

to answer your question.. both... so yes.. swordsman for mind dmg was a big consideration for the PVP... however, on the lines of PVE, i wouldn't go for the defensive mods + sweep cause of the KD nerfs and the fact that a) if this is speaking for pve, sweep only really does its job against humanoids and b) without a decent attack to hit with, i probably wont need the defense mods when i help my pet hehe...

were I to do pikeman, i'd probably go sweep 1 and actionhit 2.

Well, after the KD nerf this point is mostly academic, but...

KD works quite well against non-humanoid mobs. I use(d) it all the time against baz nitches, tusk cats, verrmoks, etc. It works quite well against all of them.

Also, polearmhit2 is an effective attack. I certainly use it more often then I do the actionhits...

No, it won't matter after the Knock Down nerf. I'm playing now, and nothing matters after the nerf.

We just suck.