Pikeman Archive

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Yeho wrote:

I'm thinking that we just need to make a sticky at the top about how to kill jedi w/ pikes since it has been asked so often. I've put my opinions on posts like these at least 4-5 times since i became a troll. Lol.

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QFE

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dhamian wrote:

Okay my toon on lowca is a master pikeman and soon to be master doc. I have the following weapons:

ns lance #1: ns lance #2: VL:

225 health poison 223 health poison Mods: def. vs. KD + 5

50% pot. 90% pot. Polearm speed +8

135s dur. 130s dur. speed 3.5(sliced)

40 Health disease 40 health disease min: 213

1200s dur. 1200s dur. max: 511

1% pot. 40% pot.

okay, thse are the weapons i have so far? i need to know what attacks, food, the whole nine yards.

I need the help from fellow pikeman/pikewomen. please help me.

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You need to put jedis on defensive as fast as possible because pike toughness is low. Make sure you're fully prepared, (synthsteak, buffs, PSG if you use em, yadda yadda). Don't use DOTs, the switch weapon time is gonna screw you over in the end. A fire wouldn't be bad, just dont rely on your DOTs. use a high damage lance. You'll probably only need three moves this fight as far as attacks. Your sweep, your lunge, and your last area attack with dizzy. Keep em on the defensive as long as you can, if they get up and your lunge timer has a long time to go, warcry and heal yourself. it's not toooo tough. If synth breaks, or PSG breaks, always have more on hand. A good idea is to buy exo protein wafers. its a 25% damage reducer for only 5 filling. You can keep poppin exo proteins a lot more than you can pop synth steak. Im not gonna lie to ya, you're chances of taking on a skilled DJK with master doc/master pike is gonna be a LOT tougher than it would be if you had more defenses. But best of luck, and remember, its FAR from impossible that you can't take a guy out.

I myself is a Master Pikeman and I do have doc. I'm not master doc though. Fighting jedi knights can be done. Just keep popping those damage reductions like suptax stated. Personally I stopped using dots against jedi unless there are more than one. If you want to bother with dots, then use fire. When you are switching between your weapons, do it while you warcry them. This will buy you some time and remember to ALWAYS keep them intimidated. Pikeman have terrible toughness so they take tons of dmg from MLS jedi. You cannot rely solely on dots unless they have some uber stats on em. A damage pike is a must.

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dhamian wrote:

lol, im actualyl changing ym template. it is gonna be master pikena and master rifles with whatever is left over on medic. i went krayt hunting with my master pike and looted some pretty good tissues and god a 556 max 5.7 speed dxr-6b rifle. it is sliced but not pup'd. they are really accuarate. cant wait to kick jedi's butt in the fights im gonna end up doing. but thx for all for your help.

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You're gonna need some defenses to throw on top of that template. Rifleman will do you no good against a MLS jedi. You would have a much better chance pairing up rifleman with TKM or Fencer. Once a jedi gets you on the ground, which won't be hard to do... you will stand no chance.

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keataro_Mcwookie wrote:

You better hope they dont have a 1h saber if you dont have that extra meele def ect....

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if they hold a one handed sabre and you are prepared, be ready for an easy win lol. 100 damage to the mind is easy to regen back

Make sure to stack your DOT attacks and force the Jedi to waste his power. having a high damage LVA will help too.

The main problem with attacking a Jedi that is solo, is he has the ability to Force Run, which will cause you a big headache if your slow or can't keep him/her off their feet. You only have one chance to burst run after him, so make it count! Best thing if your slow is to lock onto the Jedi with the follow command, this way you can consentrate on your attacks.

Intimidate and Warcry are key...use them to the fullest! Master Brawler added to the mix..even better!

create a looped COB macro, this will increase your block advantage to their attacks. Make sure you have good melee defence too. A lightsabre can cut through anything, so free up armor for increased HAM power. Only wear prime pieces of armor if they are needed to help boost you with MOD's.

Full buffs are key. Prime and secondary. Visit a Dancer and listen to music before hunting a Jedi down. Depending on your race and stats, a good Doctor in a medical city can uber buff you for 2800+ per stat. Also if you have TK skills, Power Boost helps alot too. With correct full buffs, Power Boost, eat 2 50% 1000+ Vercuptis, drink 2 Brandy's, and pop spice, you could reach 6k HAM for about 6 to 8 minutes, then 4k after that.

There are alot of other tricks that can be used to. Yummy defence steak and other quick protection!

Good luck!

Message Edited by Eggman11 on 03-10-2005 07:55 PM

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Kaukiji wrote:
i might add, if ur gonna use dots get some fire ones ^_^ (maybe a few health fires then use area2 or something)

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i disagree, i find that in the time i have delayed between switching dots, and the time between the dot ticks are a waste of time. I can usually flatten a jedi with my pike doing just straight dmg and keeping states on. IMO dots are not worth it unless your with a group of BH's

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film wrote:

of course the best jedi will end up forcing you to force them use their entire force bar

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So will my 733 max dmg pike not work so well?

First two Jedi I took with polearms I didn't do so hot with (ok so one had a mind fire pike), and I would have most likely killed the other one with my ranged template. Still trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong.

Message Edited by Ratape on 03-14-2005 11:36 AM