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Thread: Master Pikeman on Starsider Unrivaled in melee.
daymeeuhn wrote:
my Master Specials do alot more in fire damage than a brawler
What do you mean by that? If I have a 100 strength health poison rifle (for which I have no certs) I get a 100 strength health poison when using it. Same thing for the DoT polearms.
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MarshalCreed wrote:
DirtyDon, if someone only had 0/0/0/2 in brawler and tried to hit me I would have to lay down and go AFK for an hour and they would still miss. Most players have melee and ranged defense. If you want to hit with a NS VL or reinforced combat staff you better have some accuracy mods when fighting other players. That is why I said 0/0/4/4 in Pike. Sorry you didnt seem to understand that, most pikeman know this and it is just understood.
Wrong.
Lances are good at low lvls because they have such good accuarcy mods. Now you will miss a lot against most pvp builds, that missing doesn'teven matter a lot of the time. Why, well, as a 0/0/0/2 brawler you're going to hit probably 3-10 shots against someone that has a pvp build. But regardless of wheather you hit them or not, a good 6-10 times the DOT will still stick on them. I know this from being a Commando for a very long time. I missed a LOT, but more then half of the times I missed, they still got a DOT.
So if even if your only using WarCry1, that is 10 seconds to land 1-2 hits. All I'm saying is that because you have the ability to give huge mind DOTs does not mean that all the other Pikeman should suffer.
That's my opinion, not yours ![]()
daymeeuhn wrote:
Why should my Pikeman be no different?
try rackin win without NS lance for fun ... get alot harder ...
And your always buffed ... try unbuffed (food , doctor buff, etc...) you wont be able to get 2 special move in your duel
Most class will perform better than a pikeman if they don't have those NS weapon and Buff
Sure , pikeman can be the deadliest with good buff and weapon (i saw someone kill peeps in one hit with a fire lance ... no big deal). But to the same lvl , other perform alot better
Fire does NOT do the number specified on the weapon. it works differently. Go try it, youll see. My 182 str Fire DoT can do up to 300 a click.
As for stacking classes, EVERY SINGLE PVP BUILD USES OTHER CLASSES in their template.
If youre taking doctor, or scout, or weaponsmith dont complain about losing in PvP. Im not saying Pikemen dont need help as a class by themselves I am saying As a Master Pikemen using a pike to duel/GCW I am extremely strong and efficient. If You cant win duels, theres probably a reason why. If you cant fight successfully in the GCW, Im trying to help you out.
Dont jump down my throat, call me a liar and point fingers when Im TRYING TO HELP YOU! lol. I mean really, if you want to continue sucking with a pike, go right ahead! No ones stopping you. I, however, like to win fights with a pike. /shrug
Dynastar wrote:
Drop everything except Master Pikeman, and go duel somebody with only Master Fencer, Swordsman or Teras Kasi Master, then come back to us.
i did that. i dueled a master heavy swordsman with 4004 in tka. i won 2 out of 3. i dueled amaster fencer, master pistoleer. i won 4 out of 4. i dueled a tkm with dirty fighting 4 and some pistoleer. i won 1 out of 3. i dueled a master bounty hunter. i won 2 out of 3. tka was the only one that i really had trouble with and couldn't beat regularly.
and no, i don't have any other melee professions mastered. and at the time, i was 0002 in pistoleer and 0040 in smuggler, so i doubt the pistol speed mods or feign death mods were helping me during those duels.
some of us can't afford to "buy" a good pikeman(an uber weapon), and its not like you can jsut go and loot one when ever youw ant....we have tried.... tears were all we found!
I want an axe like this....
Long Vibro Axe (Legendary)
AP-Medium
Min.-450
max.-1500
Speed- who really cares? but low would look more impressive
Accuracy- -65/-65/-65 or less
HAM- 9/8/3 it could happen....
Wound- like 100% or more(MAN that would piss people off!)
DOT-Fire
Mind
Strength- 1400
Duration- 1600s
potentsy-97%
Uses- -1(infinite)
I know this sounds like an insane weapon, too insane for even a (ledgendary), but it actually is VERY possible, how ever unlikly, but if some one looted a LVA(ledgendary) this is probably what the would expect.
There was a Vibro Axe wich is inarguably a worse weapon than the LVA, that was (legendary), with stats that were at least AS insane as this.....maybe some one has a link?
Riflemen are good because they stack defenses from other classes.
Fencers are good because they take other defenses.
Swordsmen? Where are their defenses? Oh yeah, other classes.
Why should my Pikeman be no different?
As for anyone being able to use the specials, yeah... they CAN use them. But A) they will miss a hell of a lot more than me, B) my FIre damage scales based on the damage I do, meaning my Master Specials do alot more in fire damage than a brawler, and C) they barely even get a chance to hit me. I could probably drop most of my defenses, and still do fine, on the basis my offense is so severe they rarely ever fight back.