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Thread: OMG! what is wrong with these developers! another new swordsman weapon?! a new TK wpn! where's our's
*sigh*
it's on test center already....................... i give it 2 maybe 3 weeks max
BoyOfLight wrote:
CrystalMaster wrote:
Witter Im a master swordsman and omw to master pikeman (4/4/0/3). I don't think that teras kasi people should get new weapons, cuz they are already cheap. I do think that us swordsmen should get a new weapon though, because they scythe is HORRIBLE AND NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUT INTO THE GAME. Now after I mastered swordsman, i decided to master pikeman, and I will admit pikemen DO need another weapon. Also, since we have long staffs, why would there be negative range modifiers? That makes no sense at all. Swordsman deserve the right to be better in pvp, AND so do pikeman. But i really dont think fencers need anything else, cuz they are sooooooooooooooo uber already. Pikeman should get like a REAL scythe, with a blade at the end thats like 4 feet big, and average damage of like 700, now that would be nice
The tera kasi are getting a new weapon because the only type of damage they can deal is kinetic and many many mobs have 85-100% kinetic resist, now all other proffessions have the option of welding another damage type to give them an ability to do even slight damage, at the moment TKA dont.
A Swordsmen Scythe is not horrible, however your weaponsmiths may be horrible, on my server i have seen scythe that has well over 400 damage(an old timer swordsmen like myselfs powerhammer stats ), with more even out HAM costs and much faster, on my server it is now the most widly used swordsmen Weapon
As it is Fencer have i belive Kinetic and Stun damage ( only ) which is good just because they also have the alternative that TKA dont have. Though they DO deserve new weapons just to add variety, which is why many of these new weapons ( like the new Black Sun weapons are most likely being added )
Pikeman were the first to get new weapons beyond the normally craftable, mainly the Night Sister Pikes and Energy lances so in that respect they have been given the chance to expand weapon wise, they also have more then one damage type ( kinetic, and energy, possibly more )
As it is i have Finished Swordsmen ( and been one for 5 months ), Fencer ( about 3 weeks ) and a TKA ( 3 days, hoping to keep for several months ) and i have to say out of all of them Swordsmen is the most uber of them all if you know how to weild their weapons right ( which many do not know how to do ).
At the moment i am leveling up Pikeman which will complete my trek through brawler, which is my favorite line in they entire game and although at first the speed seems really terrible ( 5.5! 6.6! ) buta LVA can hit 3.3-3.8 speed and still have decent damage ( High 300's ( 2handed Curved Sword - Mid quality Scythe ) ).
Also be aware that this Publish 8 is still quiet a bit away, and since this stuff will be released with the mini dungeon it is even further, do not jump to the conclusion that you will not get a new weapon
Message Edited by BoyOfLight on 04-14-2004 12:00 AM
Realistically the Nightsister Energy Lance is so incredibly rare on many servers that its not a choice for even the most dedicated Pikeman, while Scythes are common enough to be used by Dancers as a balance tool while they're playing in the cantina.
I dont have a problem with more weapon choices for the other melee classes, I just think we deserve a slice of the pie too when it comes to it. Re-hashed Nightsister drops of our crafted weapons, and a lance that most Pikeman have only seen screen shots of isnt a slice, its not even at the table.
Pikemen 'super weapons' are a joke. Most of us can't even get one, and the few times you ever see one they're in the hands of camping scalpers who sit around the Queen's lair all day, none of whom are actually Pikemen themselves, and who later want to sell it to you for millions.
Screw the Devs and their dumb idea of Pikeman balance.
Its only cause your willing to pay millions for it 
Anyhow My reply in the fencer forum ti the exact same topic goes here too.....Just wait a bit, it isquite likely they can still find a new piker weapon....Just be patient, if it goes live and there is still nothing there Then certainlylight a fire under the devs arse....
On a Side note the new axe is a scyth clone right now....a new weaponfor you guys right now would probably just be a lance clone till they get around to changing it
Message Edited by JediQuic on 04-14-2004 08:07 PM
JediQuic wrote:
Its only cause your willing to pay millions for it
Anyhow My reply in the fencer forum ti the exact same topic goes here too.....Just wait a bit, it isquite likely they can still find a new piker weapon....Just be patient, if it goes live and there is still nothing there Then certainlylight a fire under the devs arse....
On a Side note the new axe is a scyth clone right now....a new weaponfor you guys right now would probably just be a lance clone till they get around to changing it
Message Edited by JediQuic on 04-14-2004 08:07 PM
Well you'll never not find someone willing to pay millions for it.
Anyway...I'm kind of wary on tkas getting a new weapon because so many have asked for our heads declaring that we're overpowered when the other melee professions have yet to be brought up to our level. They still aren't there and it's something I look forward to.
Well I tooka good look at the new Pistoleer, Swordsman and Teras Kasi weapons. The new pistol looks goofy but is really poor in stats, the new "sword" (actually an axe) is another mediocre kinetic weapon (but looks pretty cool in a way), and as for the new Teras Kasi VK - they should just name it VibroNerfMeNowKnuckler (heat damage, ap1, 99 - 251 damage pre slice)
So Im:
1) Not impressed (pistol)
2) Wanting one for my wall to decorate (sword)
3) Happy they got another damage type, but shuddering at the damage they will do for the two weeks before the mother of all nerfs hits them (you know who)
Xeranx wrote:
JediQuic wrote:
Its only cause your willing to pay millions for it
Anyhow My reply in the fencer forum ti the exact same topic goes here too.....Just wait a bit, it isquite likely they can still find a new piker weapon....Just be patient, if it goes live and there is still nothing there Then certainlylight a fire under the devs arse....
On a Side note the new axe is a scyth clone right now....a new weaponfor you guys right now would probably just be a lance clone till they get around to changing it
Message Edited by JediQuic on 04-14-2004 08:07 PM
Well you'll never not find someone willing to pay millions for it.
Anyway...I'm kind of wary on tkas getting a new weapon because so many have asked for our heads declaring that we're overpowered when the other melee professions have yet to be brought up to our level. They still aren't there and it's something I look forward to.
i agree... i wish i could go out there and loot it myself... but most of the time the tka, fencer, or pistoleer that thinks pikemen is a loser profession is hte one getting every decent pike out there... in a 20 elder night i was only able to get 3 pikes worth keeping and even those werent worth the excitement
balance doesnt make sense when pistoleers who have great crafted weapons can loot a good geo pistol and that may go for 6-700k but a 5-600 dmg pike will go for 1.5-2 millions because pikemen's are just desparate to get a decent pike to choose from
Dunklemaus wrote:
Well I tooka good look at the new Pistoleer, Swordsman and Teras Kasi weapons. The new pistol looks goofy but is really poor in stats, the new "sword" (actually an axe) is another mediocre kinetic weapon (but looks pretty cool in a way), and as for the new Teras Kasi VK - they should just name it VibroNerfMeNowKnuckler (heat damage, ap1, 99 - 251 damage pre slice)
So Im:
1) Not impressed (pistol)
2) Wanting one for my wall to decorate (sword)
3) Happy they got another damage type, but shuddering at the damage they will do for the two weeks before the mother of all nerfs hits them (you know who)
its not even that we want a new dmg type really though it is nice.... i think at this point pikemen would jsut be happy with a identical weapon that just looks better... i mean if i had a lance like the NS energy lance that only fuctioned like a regular VL or LVA i would be perfectly happy because it is a different weapon... most people with NS lance use it to run around and showoff mostly anyways...
but the thing is that the other prof are getting enw weapons with new dmg types and or functions... maybe no ar1 or low-end dmg for new dmg type.. but something new is something new...
being a DE/smuggler, and Pikeman/HS/Brawler .. i already have 3 prof which have nothign really to boast about... smugglers would die to smuggle something.... DE's would die for a new chassis... pikemen would die for a new pike that doesnt take killing one of the hardest NPCs in teh game taht is now gettign her uber force back and then having to get motors for it....
please give me a really long lead pencil so i can at least to lead poison dmg
Witter wrote:"blacksun executioner's hack" what the @#$%! they just got the scythe now another? http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=swordsman&message.id=28059"blacksun razor knucklers" **edit**!not to mention a new pistol as well, seems every class but the pikeman and fencer are getting new wpns, where is the love for us? at least fencer have those nice acklay stun batons!!
Because we have the worst Developer at SOE. I mean our profession description has 'hardest hitting weapons' or some such. Well we know that's b.soe. Look Swordsmen have several weapons that do significantly more damage including that coveted Blast damage type, not to mention they have 6 AP2 weapons and we have 1 Kinetic one that does less damage than the AP2 Blast damage one.
Not to mention the clueless one (Keldarin) doesn't even understand that 50% is far greater than 0%--I'm referring to the fact that our defense Block allows 50% damage on a Success, unlike Dodge and Counterattack which allow 0% damage. I don't know when he stopped doing math but 50% of 3000 is a lot more than 0% of 3000 (normal type hit on the Corvette). I'll restate it for him 1500 > 0. And that would be one out of several hits, whoops I mean successful Blocks. This isn't rocket science. Someone needs to hold his hand and explain that half damage is NOT acceptable game design.
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