Pikeman Archive

I would like to see

1.spears, halbeders(SP), sycthes, more staves,

2. a specialty line like that of meditative in tka, ie: line (Pike jumps), we launch ourselves into the air and come down with an attack on our enemy with massive damage takes four boxes

3. accuracy fixed so we hit like other proffesions

4. DB moves, if we incap with that move it automatically DB's

5. range increased

6. speed increases ( to make us even a viable class to compete in pvp)

I think the first thing this class needs are some simple and realistic changes to our method of combat. As someone said earlier, staff weapons are used at high speeds but the focus of our class is polearm weapons. Maybe the staff weapons should have their speeds drastically increased, while the pike weapons remain slow and menacing (as they should be). I think the biggest mishandling of the pikeman class is the lack of control we have in a fight. Our number one strength should be tanking. As others have said, a traditional pikeman was used as a first defense... against cavalry, charging soldiers, etc. A pikeman should have a radius that is very difficult to penetrate. At 0 range we shouldhave high penalties, but the opponent should suffer considerably before they can become that close to a pikeman. We need to have a unique version of Center of Being, where we don't necessarily blockbut focus purely on a defensive stance that would award us an auto attack on anyone that enters our radius.A pikeman shouldtank better than any Tera Kasi or fencer. Witha polearm extended, we should be able tokeep an aggro mob at bay, even if we are not hitting it. As said countless times before by our olderpikemen here, in the Star Wars movies the pikemen you see are primarily bodyguards. This is because they can prevent an opponent from advancing on their superior or client. Maybe we should have a"safe zone" that we create around riflemen or fellow group members when we stand by their side, reflecting the length and attack radius of the pike. A Tera Kasi should have higher toughness based on the martial conditioning of their training, but we need the highest melee defense of all the melee characters. We should not be jumping around and spinning constantly so I find the high HAM cost on pike weapons acceptable. But as I said earlier, thestaff weapons are different and should have VERY low HAM costs, as they are one of the most basic weapons to use. Yet with both weapons, they still have the best range and this is why our melee defense should be superior. NOT toughness or range defense (as I imagine that a pikeman would be slower and easier to shoot than a fencer or martial artist), but make our melee defense reflect our class and weapons. In old Japan, women were sometimes trained in combat and used in the infantry ranks. They were primarily taught the use of the naginata, which is the Japanese equivalent of the LVA. They found that even a lesser trained woman with a polearm could be made into a formidable foefor a swordsman...

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GrendelsMother wrote:

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I was bored so I sorted it out for ya

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I think the first thing this class needs are some simple and realistic changes to our method of combat. As someone said earlier, staff weapons are used at high speeds but the focus of our class is polearm weapons. Maybe the staff weapons should have their speeds drastically increased, while the pike weapons remain slow and menacing (as they should be).

I think the biggest mishandling of the pikeman class is the lack of control we have in a fight. Our number one strength should be tanking. As others have said, a traditional pikeman was used as a first defense... against cavalry, charging soldiers, etc. A pikeman should have a radius that is very difficult to penetrate. At 0 range we shouldhave high penalties, but the opponent should suffer considerably before they can become that close to a pikeman. We need to have a unique version of Center of Being, where we don't necessarily blockbut focus purely on a defensive stance that would award us an auto attack on anyone that enters our radius.A pikeman shouldtank better than any Tera Kasi or fencer. Witha polearm extended, we should be able tokeep an aggro mob at bay, even if we are not hitting it.

As said countless times before by our olderpikemen here, in the Star Wars movies the pikemen you see are primarily bodyguards. This is because they can prevent an opponent from advancing on their superior or client. Maybe we should have a"safe zone" that we create around riflemen or fellow group members when we stand by their side, reflecting the length and attack radius of the pike. A Tera Kasi should have higher toughness based on the martial conditioning of their training, but we need the highest melee defense of all the melee characters.

We should not be jumping around and spinning constantly so I find the high HAM cost on pike weapons acceptable. But as I said earlier, thestaff weapons are different and should have VERY low HAM costs, as they are one of the most basic weapons to use. Yet with both weapons, they still have the best range and this is why our melee defense should be superior. NOT toughness or range defense (as I imagine that a pikeman would be slower and easier to shoot than a fencer or martial artist), but make our melee defense reflect our class and weapons.

In old Japan, women were sometimes trained in combat and used in the infantry ranks. They were primarily taught the use of the naginata, which is the Japanese equivalent of the LVA. They found that even a lesser trained woman with a polearm could be made into a formidable foefor a swordsman...

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Braglor, you are the best. Thank you for the help. If someone could teach me how to make paragraphs in my posts, I would be grateful...

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Braglor wrote:

In old Japan, women were sometimes trained in combat and used in the infantry ranks. They were primarily taught the use of the naginata, which is the Japanese equivalent of the LVA. They found that even a lesser trained woman with a polearm could be made into a formidable foefor a swordsman...

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As is my main heritage (couldn't tell yet?.. ), I would also like to add:

In Rural Japan, during War Campaigns, as the men left to fight the dirty battles the women were generally left to defend the castle against surprise attacks, and thus they were efficiently trained in (NO, NOT UNARMED) the use of the weapon called, Naginata. They chose the Naginata ("Pike" version of Japanese polearms) for a reason that yet still eludes the logic and reasoning of SW:G Devs.

. Even today the Naginata (not Yari )is *almost* exclusively wielded bywomen of the arts, though not necessarily illegal for a male to wield, it's not hand-in-hand with tradition to see a male Master of Naginata.

Have a good day...........oh, and TH, im still pissed.........Thanks..........

• TKA can buff themselves with meditate and are overall stronger than us. Can wealso get some sort of skill that helps us get stronger besides have to eat food that lasts a couple of seconds or spending 5-10k on a doctor?


• Gives us something like meditate expect call it like Focus or something.


• The pikeman skill treeis messed up. Way too much exp is required for a special that you dont even use. combine 2 branches and add buffing branch.


• More weapons of course. Something along the lines of double sides pole arms were we can hit twice. (kind of like darth maul but no lightsaber)


• The skill tree lacks polearm speed. unless some sort of fast polearm is added we should have some more +'s in there.


• Have polearms do more dmg! i am novice TKA and i do more dmg in 3 sec than 2 hits with my vibro lance. hell...im also lvl 4 in flame from commando. and my flame thrower is 452-861 with 3.7 attack speed. my vibro lance cant even be compared to that.(not to mention the flame special DoT)


• Maybe a special mount for pikeman only. Bio Engieeredit will add to dmg that a polearm does. it would hurt a lot more if u got charged by a polearm than just simply getting hit by one.


• Area bleed is ok...i cno point, except in hunting and whats only worth hunting does +400 dmg to you.

Well that wraps it up i hope the devs or the cor reads this

Hmmm a wish list.......i would wish for a type of tag team special with other pikeman...something like assist, maybe throw in some nice animation and some good dmg. This will accomplish two things.....get us pikeman to group with eachother and enable us tokill those grubbers.

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Tertiushand wrote:

Hmmm a wish list.......i would wish for a type of tag team special with other pikeman...something like assist, maybe throw in some nice animation and some good dmg. This will accomplish two things.....get us pikeman to group with eachother and enable us tokill those grubbers.

Tapion of Ronin

Corbantis

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The problem isn't getting Pikeman grouped, we always group or offer to team up one day to kick some ass when we see each other.....the problem is finding other non-holo dedicated Pikeman to group with

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