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Thread: Why Looted pikeman weapons and DOT weapons shoulden't be nerfed
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ZomKalla
Tue Jul 06, 2004 1:14 pm
#1
The reason the looted weapons should be nerfed is because no profession shold be loot-dependant. Also our Hit3 now hasa x4 modifier.
Ixiss
Tue Jul 06, 2004 1:28 pm
#2
ZomKalla wrote:
Also our Hit3 now hasa x4 modifier.
yea he stated that. he was saying that ours is x4 where the other melee have x5.
Oberon131313
Tue Jul 06, 2004 2:05 pm
#3
why in the hell are you stating that "rare looted items" are a GOOD thing? This game is supposed to be crafter dependant, it goes against everything SOE said in the beggining.
annelid0
Tue Jul 06, 2004 2:24 pm
#4
Spoken like a true FotM.
Incidentally, swordsmen's hit3 has a 4x damage mod.
Incidentally, swordsmen's hit3 has a 4x damage mod.
DomMantell
Tue Jul 06, 2004 2:38 pm
#5
No profession should ever be loot dependent.
How is a non-power gamer supposed to compete as a pikeman if the only viable weapons are looted?
Looted weapons, in my opinion, are one of the biggest reasons the devs have for NOT fixing pikeman. We don't need any of their attention because we have access to great looted weaponry.
Get rid of DOT weapons and the devs will be forced to give pikeman some genuine attention.
How is a non-power gamer supposed to compete as a pikeman if the only viable weapons are looted?
Looted weapons, in my opinion, are one of the biggest reasons the devs have for NOT fixing pikeman. We don't need any of their attention because we have access to great looted weaponry.
Get rid of DOT weapons and the devs will be forced to give pikeman some genuine attention.
GreatReorx
Tue Jul 06, 2004 3:46 pm
#6
Hard to find looted weapons? please .... Night Sister drops areas common as dirt. But yes i agree that Pike shouldnt be loot dependent which it is.
Psykeman420-HS
Tue Jul 06, 2004 4:12 pm
#7
find me a handful of veteran pikemen that agree with you!
you won't find it easily because most of us want the same thing, we want to be usefull, to have a purpose in battle, not to be a mini-cm. CMs are bad enough but being a cheap, second rate, loot depended, shorter ranged version of this is not only bad its insane
you won't find it easily because most of us want the same thing, we want to be usefull, to have a purpose in battle, not to be a mini-cm. CMs are bad enough but being a cheap, second rate, loot depended, shorter ranged version of this is not only bad its insane
GreatReorx
Tue Jul 06, 2004 4:41 pm
#8
Being a mini CM does suck but if thats what i have to be to compete in PVP then thems the breaks. My first temp was master HS and i can quite honestly say i am far better in pvp than i was with HS. In comparison with PVE my character i perhaps 10 times better. There are a few resons for this.
1) HS speed tapes are at 2mil per point and are very very rare. I didnt get one tape and now that i have Pike i was able to get +25 speed and +21 accuracy for about 18mil. That automaticaly gives me an advantage.
2) Power Hammer 5.4 spd - max dmg 654 - this is a nice one but not as nice as Ackley. In comparison LVA looted 2.3 spd 854 max dmg. also have a VL at 700 dmg and another LVA about the same
3) dot weapons on HS? never seen one except the disease mind axe that everyone has. With pike i have 3 lances that i use in PVP all above 270 mind poison and with KD dizzy which you also dont have in HS it ticks away on the mind quite nicely.
I agree that there is alot of broken or under average stats with Pike but all in all i have to say that it would be one of the strongest classes if you can play it right
Theres my little rant for the day 
film
Tue Jul 06, 2004 4:46 pm
#9
i have to agree with Rocacca, our proffesion is gimped, and the fact that you have to loot good weapons/ weapons with dots is what makes it special/ not so gimped. I actually stay in the proffesion because of these reasons. and no not every proffesion should have to be crafter dependent. lets be honest, any ws/as has more than enough customers without adding veteran pikeman looters to their array. besides we will ALWAYS need a crafter for a ns energy lance. So untill they find a more exciting meaning/pourpose for pikeman to hold there class looted weaps should def. not be nerfed
Dynastar
Tue Jul 06, 2004 5:46 pm
#10
Rocacca wrote:The DOT weapons and high damage rare loot is the only reason why the few pikeman who play this game and I are still holding onto it.
So, what you're really saying is that you and the other FotM people are holding onto your "I WIN" button for dear life.
Vincentarasin
Tue Jul 06, 2004 9:55 pm
#11
Dynastar wrote:
Rocacca wrote:
The DOT weapons and high damage rare loot is the only reason why the few pikeman who play this game and I are still holding onto it.
So, what you're really saying is that you and the other FotM people are holding onto your "I WIN" button for dear life.
I do belive your stance on being able to criticise is nullified by your signature sir.
Stackist.
That said, Pikeman isnt FOTM, SWORDSMAN is FOTM.
I went pikeman so I didnt have to be a FOTM and be able to kill 'some' higher level mobs.
Rocacca
Wed Jul 07, 2004 12:34 am
#12
To start off, pikeman is just abut the worst combat profession in the entire game....
The Bad things about pikeman......:
Low damage crafted weapons
Slow speed crafted weapons
The worst defenses of any comba profession
The worst secondary defense mod, block
Slow speed at master
No cool benefits like TKA meditation
Crappy damage types compared to Fencer Stun damage and swordsman Blast damage
Lowest damage modifyer on our highest damage attack, which is 4x compared to TKA, Fencer, and Swordsman 5x
The Good things about pikeman.....
Cool looking special attacks
Very rare and hard to find looted weapons from nightsisters
Area knockdown
So you see, the only real benefit of being a pikeman is if you can loot a good weapon from a nightsister. I personally like the profession being Loot-based. I like relying on my killing skills to get my weaponry. The DOT weapons and highdamage rare loot is the only reason why the few pikeman who play this game and I are still holding onto it. In my opinion, anyone who thinks pikeman loot should be nerfed is a serious **edit** and needs to actually try out the profession. I think pikeman should stay the same as it is now if not get beter in the combat rebalance when classes like rifleman get nerfed.
We are not "mini-CMs"
Our loot is not overpowered
Our loot should not be deleted or nerfed because this is the worst profession in the game and it shouldent be nerfed any further...
Message Edited by Rocacca on 07-06-2004 12:45 PM
-Alkaline-
Wed Jul 07, 2004 9:02 pm
#13
Thats a load of crap Vincent, you know damn well pike is FoTM. Everyone(and by everyone I meanSwordsman) goes down the the NS stronghold, loots weapons with high dmg and DoTs, and goes, "Ive had my fill of PvE, time to test out my DoTs!". Swordsman was the Ex-FoTM, same with TKA, but everyone is starting to go ape**edit** over DoTs.
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