Pikeman Archive
Thread: Regarding the +Dmg modifier.
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1StarNinja
Tue Sep 28, 2004 1:30 pm
#1
The +dmg modifier?
I'm currently holding onto what could be a killer LVA if there is a possibility it is or will be a working mod, otherwise I might as well delete this thing I think.
Min: 138
Max: 552
Speed: 3.3
Wound: 34.7%
-45 @ All ranges
H:45
A:44
M:10
Skill mods: +21 Defense vs. Intimidate
+25 Polearm Damage
Natural Dmg/Speed (Unsliced and not powered up)
From what I see unless the dmg mod is/was working it's pretty basic other than the Def. Vs Intimidate.
Has it been requested or looked into about getting that mod looked at, or has it been said somewhere that they will not be fixing it or will be removing it all together? (The search function on lithium boards is horrible ...)
antares_Kauri
Tue Sep 28, 2004 4:02 pm
#4
1StarNinja wrote:
Doh!
/me heads off looking for the -[DEL]- Key
Why? It has above average damage, +21 d vs intimidate, better than average speed, low mind HAM cost. It's a great LVA. Don't delete it.
antares
DarthMarksman
Tue Sep 28, 2004 4:04 pm
#5
1StarNinja wrote:
Doh!
/me heads off looking for the -[DEL]- Key
Don't delete it. It's an above average LVA in terms of damage and speed.
1StarNinja
Wed Sep 29, 2004 8:55 am
#6
Is the speed and dmg that decent on it? I figured the intimidate defense was nice, didn't realize it was up there with the other stats on it. Guess I will hold onto it for a while. Who knows maybe the +dmg mod will get fixed and it will be a brutal LVA then. 
antares_Kauri
Wed Sep 29, 2004 10:53 am
#7
Is it sliced? Even if it is, you have better than usual average damage and speed. Crafted LVAs are 110-380 @ 4.4 before slice.
antares
antares
1StarNinja
Wed Sep 29, 2004 11:29 am
#8
Actually hasnt' been sliced yet. The stats are Unsliced and unpowered up. I thought I read somewhere that LVA's were about 550 damage crafted that's why I thought this was just a basic LVA other than the intimidate.
Think I'm going to have to head off to my local smuggler and pray to the slicing gods for a damage slice.
1StarNinja
Wed Sep 29, 2004 11:42 am
#9
Found where I read that. Sticky at top of forum Guide to looted weapons. I just looked at the date now and saw it was from 2003 and the fact I read the part in orange as saying UNSLICED. I'll have to go and take some reading classes I think 
Guide to damages
lva 550+ unsliced(speed doesnt matter much) unless its below 5.0 - crafted is around500 damage sliced un-Pup'd. they sell for 8k-25k max
vl 400+ unsliced(speed doesnt matter much) unless its below 4.0- crafted is around 380 damage sliced un-Pup'd. they sell for 5k-15k max
ns lances 700+(unsliced) to make up for there no ap- crafted sell for 6k max
FearlessBob
Wed Sep 29, 2004 2:46 pm
#10
That pike is worth holding on to. Slice it, Pup it and go to town. Shame that the + Polearm Dam is busted.
ivossk
Fri Oct 01, 2004 9:50 am
#11
are you guys sure that the dmg is busted? I think it would just add a small amount because it adds directly. A teras master gets +200 dmg modifier, so it is clear that makes a difference on a 146 dmg knuckler, but 25 dmg added to a 550 dmg lance would be like nothing. The way to test it would be to see if it ever has dmg below 163 at base. If you do that experiment and it shows that it can go below that, then I would say it is broken.
Anyhow, nice lance, keep it, and get sword 4XXX, fencer XX4X, and carbine XX2X or use that intimi def food for some nice def... you'll be the only guy not intimidated most of the time.
Anyhow, nice lance, keep it, and get sword 4XXX, fencer XX4X, and carbine XX2X or use that intimi def food for some nice def... you'll be the only guy not intimidated most of the time.
Sawro
Fri Oct 01, 2004 1:23 pm
#12
ivossk wrote:
are you guys sure that the dmg is busted? I think it would just add a small amount because it adds directly. A teras master gets +200 dmg modifier, so it is clear that makes a difference on a 146 dmg knuckler, but 25 dmg added to a 550 dmg lance would be like nothing. The way to test it would be to see if it ever has dmg below 163 at base. If you do that experiment and it shows that it can go below that, then I would say it is broken.
Anyhow, nice lance, keep it, and get sword 4XXX, fencer XX4X, and carbine XX2X or use that intimi def food for some nice def... you'll be the only guy not intimidated most of the time.
It is busted as in the mod was taken out of the game entirely. The only remnants of it even being in the game are the SEAs that still drop for some unknown reason.
antares_Kauri
Fri Oct 01, 2004 1:43 pm
#13
ivossk wrote:
are you guys sure that the dmg is busted? I think it would just add a small amount because it adds directly. A teras master gets +200 dmg modifier, so it is clear that makes a difference on a 146 dmg knuckler, but 25 dmg added to a 550 dmg lance would be like nothing. The way to test it would be to see if it ever has dmg below 163 at base. If you do that experiment and it shows that it can go below that, then I would say it is broken.
Anyhow, nice lance, keep it, and get sword 4XXX, fencer XX4X, and carbine XX2X or use that intimi def food for some nice def... you'll be the only guy not intimidated most of the time.
I've tested it out a while ago with +24 damage mods on a 60 damage staff. No difference at all.
antares
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