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Thread: Master Pikeman = Embarrassment?

Sirboo
Sat Sep 27, 2003 12:20 am
#1


I'm not really embarrassed and wear my title proudly but it is kinda pitiful when asked to engage in a friendly duel with anyone and you know you are about to get it handed to you on a plate. TKA, Swordsman, Ranged guys - you name it. I get tells all the time from people who just want to see the moves of a Master Pikeman in action. The whole thing usually ends with them spamming "LOL" with about 20 people standing around watching. Now that's embarrassing.


TKA win 99% of the time due to me missing the first swing and if I do land a knock down move they resist it. I never resist their knock down and it's all over at that point. Meaning that a 0/1/0/0 TKA would be victorious more times than not against a me. I usually duel with a 2.9 (2.4 with pwr up) speed sliced regular lance and still land about 1 hit per fight for about 100 damage.


I get alot of random tells of "So how do you like Pikeman?" I just tell them that in PVE, with my pet, I'm super and take down Frenzied Grauls with no problem. But I'm also quick to throw in that we suxor in PVP. Just in case they are thinking of challenging me to a duel.


I'm not here slamming Master Pikeman and plan to remain one till the end. PVE seems to be my niche for the time being but I would like to be a class that is feared by many when it comes to dueling face to face and I'm not.


Any tips, tricks or cheats would be appreciated on how to wear my Master Pikeman title without having that qweezines in my stomach when someone wants to duel me.


Sirboo

Kidnuka
Sat Sep 27, 2003 3:34 pm
#2

I've been debating between Master Pikeman or Master Doctor because I don't want to lose my scouting exploration skills. I know the benefits of Master Doctor but are there benefits to Master Pike? Is Polearmhit 3 that awesome? Any insights into Master Pikeman that may help sway my decision would be appreciated. If anything I would just not have maybe 3 boxesfilled in Pikeman if I went Master Doc.



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Elsifr
Sat Sep 27, 2003 5:09 pm
#3

I'm doing pretty much the same thing. I would suggest getting master pikeman. Polearmhit3 is worth it, as is the slight speed increase at master. Doing massive damage + stunning in one hit is great, and if you do polearmhit3 right after a sweep it seems like the damage is even higher. You may even get more accuracy at master, but I can't remember as I haven't looked at the stats since I got the title.


I personally am going to master doc as welland drop to Exploration1 because I like crafting my own meds. I have gotten used to running a little slower on hills and if mounts come out soon you probably won't need the terrain negotiation of Exploration 3 as much.


Oh, and Master Pikeman != Embarrassment. I switch between Foot Soldier, Master Pikeman and Medical Professor depending on my mood. I love running around with my Master Pike title and a reinforced combat staff. I get to meet all the other pikeman on Kettemoor that way too .


Elsifr - Master Pikeman - Kettemoor

Alexia_Wheaton
Sat Sep 27, 2003 7:50 pm
#4

Glad to know I'm not the only one using a Doctor/Pikeman, well in my case Pikewoman. I really like her so far in PvE, which is all I have yet to do.




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Gunman21
Sat Sep 27, 2003 8:04 pm
#5

Hehe, I'm a doc/pikeman and I know of another pikeman who is the same thing


It's a good combonation.





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stvmast
Sat Sep 27, 2003 9:52 pm
#6

I just started a Pikeman on Eclipse (so far have had to train polearm 1 and 2, since i couldnt find anyone to train me =( )


I am debating between Pikeman / Doctor, or Pikeman / CH with 4/2/4/0 in Medic!


I already have a TKA / Doctor on Shadowfire, so I think I will lean toward Pikeman/CH.


So far my impression of the Polearm class (pikeman) is mixed! (5k away from Polearm 3).


1) Damage is very nice (with a Basic Lance, have done 450dmg using Polearm Hit 1)


2) Accuracy is absolutely horrible (Roughly miss half of all attacks) I cant imagine that this is intended, if it is, then ????? Slow yes, but I would expect a polearm to be fairly accurate (afterall it would be difficult to avoid a skilled weilder of a 6ft long pole)


3) Speed is slow, but that is to be expected (6ft long pole, being swung around aint bound to be quick)


But so far I see alot to look forward to, will let you know how it goes




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Metroid
Sat Sep 27, 2003 10:12 pm
#7

Realisticly staff fighting is faster then most other forms, watch real martial artists who are trained in them. The moves you can do with a polearm chain together better then, pretty much any other weapon.


But, if this game was based on reality we wouldn't be in star wars.




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ArkMindSpear
Sun Sep 28, 2003 1:00 am
#8

I have NEVER seen a lance do 2/3 what a LVA can....


Even if for now the regular lance IS our best weapon....it is not supposed to be.


the most damage i have ever heard of was like 30-270....while VK are doing 130-190 at 3X the speed?


BAH!!!!!


I'll Take my chances with the 131-470 LVA and just complain later!




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IamDaniel
Sun Sep 28, 2003 1:42 am
#9

How the hell is losing that extra 1X damage but being able to stun worse than the others? I'm a master Swordsman and I've NEVER seen myself dizzy with twohanded hit3. I've done it so many times I lost count, especially after the posture down nerf. Say I do my 4X damage and dizzy my opponent, I personally would prefer if I did 3X damage and stun, because stun lowers their damage and defense, which is better defensively. Dizzy is about the most overrated status in the game. I've seen ENOUGH npcs change posture with dizzy on them and it makes no difference at all. None. So tell me, how is losing some damage for stun worse than getting that bit more damage but dizzying?
Z-Rifton
Sun Sep 28, 2003 6:39 am
#10

Actually Ive never seen Stun have any effect on anything, It doesnt do much. Its one of the few status effects I ignore when I fight cause it has no effect whatsoever. As for posture change, well Its alright but now that the 30 sec timer is in place It doesnt do much, just throw in a lunge 1 when you hit, It works just as well. Id much rather have a Dizzy or a 4x damage any day Better yet, give us blind! Now thats a defense move I like, lowers accuracy like crazy.



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ArkMindSpear
Sun Sep 28, 2003 12:34 pm
#11

Pole arm hit 3 does = damage as Spin Attack 2 but reasonably faster, and you get stun and a posture down in it(who cares?)


I have said this before-


Unarmed Hit 3 = 4X Damage + Dizzy


One-Handed Hit 3 = 4X Damage + Blind


Two-Handed Hit 3 = 4X Damage + Dizzy


Polearm Hit = 3X Damage + Stun + Posture Down


see a problem?


We loose our 4X to do posture down......before the knockdown nerf this would have been exceptable.


But once again they managed to screw us EVEN MORE than every one else.


Our other difining move (sweep 2) is also a joke.


If you NEED to use this move.....you ARE going to die. I garonte it.


Can any one here post whether they think Sweep 2isworth getting? Or would you guys give it up for just about anything else now?


Sweep 1 is still worth it though.


Ark-Kauri


4/1/3/3 Pikeman----


Aspireing Master TKA/Fencer/Pikeman




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Malqanar
Sun Sep 28, 2003 12:50 pm
#12




2) Accuracy is absolutely horrible (Roughly miss half of all attacks) I cant imagine that this is intended, if it is, then ????? Slow yes, but I would expect a polearm to be fairly accurate (afterall it would be difficult to avoid a skilled weilder of a 6ft long pole)



If you're using a basic lance your accuracy is pretty much the same as any other melee class - there's nothing inherint to pikeman that reduces accuracy, it's just that the LVA and to a lesser extent the VL have the worst accuracy modifiers of any weapon..





Salqanar Wilveedoolee
Master Chef, Master Brawler, Novice Pikeman
Malqanar
Sun Sep 28, 2003 6:28 pm
#13




How the hell is losing that extra 1X damage but being able to stun worse than the others?


Because we have several other moves that stun, it's not adding any value. If it were our only stun move then I might agree.




Salqanar Wilveedoolee
Master Chef, Master Brawler, Novice Pikeman
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