Pikeman Archive

If you want to tank, pikeman hands down, better defenses overall, and intimidate......but damage wise, you just wont stand up to a swordsman. Short and sweet(well, maybe not that sweet). Hope it helps some, thats just the basics...jsut dont want to go in depth to both.

Pikeman is really nice for the fact that you get intimidate and stuff, but yes.. swordsman does do more damage.

Ah but a in a duel pike beats sword, does this help.



raymandust tka pike doc4000

I disagree with getting pikeman. You would be able to tank very well if you are ALONE and with no one else. But if you plan on being a real tank, for a group then you need to get swordsman since they have an Area Taunt. This is a must if you want to be a profficient tank. if you dont the mobs will just run all over the place chasing everyone else but you.

Message Edited by Purefear on 06-29-2005 10:34 AM

I have both. My template is MBrawler/MPike/MSwords + TK.

The Pikeman has better defense (ranged and melee) but less accuracy and less speed.

Swords have the better speed and the better accuracy. Keep in mind that a hammer hits slower than a polearm in spite of the better speed.

Being that I use both professions for XP,I can cap swords quicker than I cap Pike...BUT...I run out of XP quicker with swords than with Pike.

And that's very important for tanking purposes. As a tank, you will want to apply states like Stun and Intimidate. You also have TK, soyou will have your COB macroed (I encourage you to do that) and will want to apply Blind. You'll need plenty of action to do all that whilst dealing damage.

But the average hammer will always outdamage the average pole. I always use my swords.

Once again i disagree. The only thing a tank needs to do is HOLD AGRO. The rest of the group will apply the proper states to the mob. Your primary goal as a tank is to keep all the mobs on you so the reast of your group doesnt have to worry about getting slapped around. As pikeman you dont get an area taunt. You really need that area taunt to keep the agro on you at all times. If pikeman was the one with area taunt i would agree to being pikeman, but as it currently stands they dont have area taunt. As a Master TK / Master Swordsman / Doctor 4000 i can tank level 82 group mobs all day long without any complications.

If you dont plan group tanking and just solo tanking by yourself w/o a group then i Pikeman is a good choice. But if you ever plan on doing dungeons with a group and plan on tanking in those dungeons then you are going to HAVE to have that area taunt. The cooldown timmer for the single taunt is just way to long to taunt multi mobs efficiently. The Area taunt taunts all mobs within 6meters of you and has a 3x faster cooldown timmer then the single taunt.

Taunt works so poorly you can't hold argo for more than a few rounds of combat. A good range person can out damage a melee. Swordsman is nice as it has armor break. Pikeman has more utility with int, warcry and has area attacks. It really isn't a matter of either or, but which you would like better.

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SIGMAH wrote:

Hi, I have a TKM+Doc 4000. I'm not sure if I'll take the Pikeman or the Swordman, what's the best tanker ?

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Honestly? Ditch the doc and medic stuff, pick up TKM + Master (swords/pike) and dabble in (pike/swords) for the abilities you might miss
(Like for example: TKM / Master Pike / Swords 0434 or TKM / Master Swords / Pike 4340). A group should have a healer and with using taunt and areataunt frequently to keep aggro you do not have to worry to lose your aggro to that healer anyway so why bother with those healingskills (for typical soloplay stim d's && ruby bliel should do the trick anyway).

Message Edited by darmokVtS on 07-01-2005 04:35 PM