Pikeman Archive
Thread: a challange to THUNDERHEART
my main gripe is that all other professions have had some kind of "conversation" with a dev threw posting and reposting...we havent...nothing noda...except for the one above...but we had to get a little nasty for that one...
we wate...we wonder...we dont go into a big tizzey abut "uberness" and "suckige" we post calm and collected...(barring holo grinders being frstrated)...and yet we get no "Correspondents" between what we post and any answers to "yay" "nay" "thats comming here are the #'s" "you guys are going to get "X""...nothing....
while all other professiuons get visited by the "devs" and have there answers eather answerd or responded to.....
our answers are like our ablity to hit the side of a barn......nonexestaint...
this has been this way sence lounch....and no convenitly...it will all be adressed in the "combat passing of gas"....
i feal we diserver the right to get a 4 page docoument of "promisses" listing all that this pass will change for us....it will be a milestone......
we have never gottion a full list of changes to even gripe about not geting...
i belive its about time.....
so i chanlenge "thunderheart" to make a post that describes our changes and issus and what will be done to our class........if he cant come up with it then its safe to say that pikeman are not cared about.
things not to put in that document....
"we will look at it"
"we are aware and it will be adressed in the next publish"
anything that is happining to all melee...this may come with it but not be the sole of it
"can you give me more info"
"im curently to busey and hve 75 top 5's to work on" ...can you use that line enough? you have had 4 months for ours
"We hear you and will be working with Gunman21 over the next few months to make Pikeman unique." thats great...what are your ideas right now?give me #'s
"There are some things in the works"......be more vauge please i allmost understood that 
"This issue has been sent to the QA team for further investigation.".....we arn't all children
"We’ll be taking a look at these issues, expect them to be fixed in the combat pass".......no **edit**....can we get some deatials that directly contribute to US!
as i said the above are not alowed to be in that post....
so im expecting one of three things...
1.no responce to this challange...and you can restasured that we are ingored and not thought about in this "prosess" of fixing.....
2.more unusefull "dubble speek" mite be intresting to read how good he was tought in school about misleading while not giving any info.
3.a nice post that we should have gottion about 3 months ago...but they were too bussey fixing the oh so broken BH anTKM.etc....
so....im wating
(this was dubble posted in our top 5...but i felt it nedded its own thred)
vonbloodworth wrote:
my main gripe is that all other professions have had some kind of "conversation" with a dev threw posting and reposting
dude! That's what we got our beloved correspondent for. The DEVs tried the beeing-everywhere-at-once-on-the-forums-thingie, and it resulted in a lot of neglected forums like PikeMen, Droid Engineer, Carbineers, etc. Problem was that they had no chance to communicate with everyone, and once someone feels left out the fire starts spreading. A solution to this was to implement the correspondent program in which the DEVs chosea personfrom each forum to represent and bring forththevariety of issues at hand. I always thought of the corresponendt program to bea nice little example of how one can delegate work in order to acchive more time and effectivness.
Still, I agree with the "some kind of 'conversation'" -statement of yours, because delegating doesn't mean neglecting or ignoring. A little update every now and then on how the DEVs feel the developing is going forthe specific profession, galaxy andetc.would mean a lot to the community. Then again, I might read the situation very wrong; remembering thereare several hundred thousand people playing this game and that the time needed of the DEVs could be insane. One should perhaps be thankful for them having time to post anything at all on the forums...
i understand what your saying...i know thats what the coraspondent is for....but with other classes many times he/she/they have not gone threw the "cor" and posted and reposted....belive me i understand that there is 300k players playing...
but just look at the dev tracker...to illistrate a point....how many replys do you see to one profession or another...and how many of thoes are pikeman specific?
we have never gottion a post like the "DE" changes,deatiled and with exampiles and folowup...(DE is ONLY and example im not singling them out)
i want concreat "this is what we are doing and what we think we can do to improve your class" im not nessarly going to hold tem to there "word" as to what finaly makes it in ...i know that things change over time..
but in 4 months many professions have had some "diolague" and answerd questions..as well as folowups...we havent other that vague "we are looking at it"...or they throw us some crap that was realy intended for one class that happend to effect us...(exe. COB)
i want to know EXACITLY what is proposed for our class...
i just want the same for this class as the others.....i cant think of a class that hasnt been given a deatialed full blown "this is whats up" post...except pikeman...our conserns havent changed....in..you know how long...i think this is a very small request considering the time any/all of the "devs" have given to others...
vonbloodworth wrote:
we have never gottion a post like the "DE" changes,deatiled and with exampiles and folowup...(DE is ONLY and example im not singling them out)
i want concreat "this is what we are doing and what we think we can do to improve your class" im not nessarly going to hold tem to there "word" as to what finaly makes it in ...i know that things change over time..
but in 4 months many professions have had some "diolague" and answerd questions..as well as folowups...we havent other that vague "we are looking at it"...or they throw us some crap that was realy intended for one class that happend to effect us...(exe. COB)
As all leaders the DEVs ahs to keep a certain level of contact with the public other than through the use of the correspondent. Naturally this contact often and almost always is focused on the largest groups within the public and those arethe blasmonkeys and crafters. Then to spice it up so that the minor groups won't feel completely left out, they will every now and then give a quick hello-and-how-are-you to a group long forgotten. Too bad for us the forgotten group was DE and not PikeMen 
I have faith that we willl get all the information we need through Gunman21, but I fear that a specific list of how the DEVsintend to develop our class profession will neverbe released.The Professionwill at best get an impression of how they intend us to work.
For future referances there are oviously larger issues at hand than just the PikeMan profession, so we should probably consider ourselves lucky for any response we might get from the DEVs via Gunman21 or straight from the top.
yarr... tis true
Psykeman420-HS wrote:
itll be monday the 5th when all are back sadly heh
I couldn't agree more. In the begining there was no correspondent program and there were only the DEVs. I can onlyimagine how the complete lack of communication with the DEVs must have been a strain on this professions community.Hopefully the changes are coming, and we will get some real response as you stated was so desperatley needed
vonbloodworth wrote:
but ive been around too long,and its very sad how they have ingored us and passed off rubbish as "answers"
Vonbloodworth,
I mean no disrespect. You obviously have been in the community for some time, but, how can you expect anyone to take you seriously with THAT MANY spelling mistakes?
It looks like you have a lot of important things you want to say, use spellchecker!