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Block is totally busted. It has been since the beginning of the game.

Only NPCs can block attacks for some reason.

oh, btw.... THAT SUCKS!

I am pikeman/carbineer so I have +105 counterattack and currently +80ish block. The counterattack doesnt seem to work at all, I may counterattack 1 in 20 hits. I noticed that in the combat spam block reads as "you counterattack blah" and counterattack reads as "blah hits you for blah and you shrug it off and counterattack". I rearly, if ever, shrug off and counterattack blows, however I consistantly 'counterattack' hits. I also noticed that after blocking a shot it also shows how much damage my armor prevented (cuz block only blocks have of the damage).

It seems to work alot better when centered as well.

I havent tried any of this in pvp though, only pve.

Message Edited by Lihpson on 04-12-2004 10:47 AM

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Daros wrote:
Dodge will appear as Counterattack in your combat log, FYI...

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first dodge does not appear as Counterattack......I was a master pistoleer and a master fencer before and It does say you dodged in the combat window. Yes sometimes you will see counterattack and ocassionally block.....everyone has a very small chance to do any of the 3 defenses.....I used to get block, counterattack and dodge messages when all I had was master marmksman.....it was may once in a thousands attacks or so...but I still got the messages.

As for block, I have noticed since i've become a master pikeman, that the messaged doesn't appear in the combat window no where near as much as counterattack does....in fact counterattacke seems to appear a lot more than any other def message.

Also, I thought I wasn't blocking at all but then Iclosed my combat windowso I could just focus on the visual combat....I have noticed that my master pikeman does block....when I fight a melee npc I can clearly see it.....it goes like this.......

npc throws a punch, my pikeman raises his lance and blocks the punchfrom the npc....no combatmessage, no damage taken, no damage given, no floaty damage overhead of either me or the npc....just a plain block, that you normally wouldn't notice if you just waitto see a block message....but yes it is there....I see it happen quite often.....It's probably more viewable with a pikeman that doesn't have a lot of speed.....I haven't done this with a rifleman though, so I don't know if they have an animation or not.

So if anything, the text message may be broken and doesn't show, but my pikeman blocks....don't know about anyone else....but I've definitely see it often.

So although, you don't see the visualmessage like dodge and counterattack, the animation is there and you don't take damage when the animationhappens.....sometimes it'shard to tell because the action goes so fast but nevertheless you can tell. Just watch your characters movements in relation to the enemy.....Also, as a master fencer or master pistoleer, I would dodge and still have no message show in the combat window....it happend may 25% of the time, but it still happened....I just know I dodged because you can't help but miss the big sidestep your character doesn't...lol

This may not be the case when your supposed to be blocking a gun shot....but then again,you shouldn't be able to block a gunshot unless you are a jedi in my opinion.

Message Edited by HardwiredXMan on 04-12-2004 09:11 PM

Your Counterattack skills will -not- play into effect when you're using a polearm.

Dodge - Fencer/Pistoleer
Counterattack - Carbineer/Swordsman
Block - Rifleman/Pikeman
(shouldn't block and counterattack be switched between swordsman/pikeman or carbineer/rifleman?)

So if you have dodge skills from Fencer, you will not see yourself dodge, either, unless you have a Fencer weapon equipped...

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Belegdae wrote:

I am a MR and have noticed the animation of moving around with both the pike out and the rifle. The combat logs says I counterattacked but I take the full damage, at least from what I have seen.

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