Pikeman Archive
Thread: leg hit3 vs head hit 3, why does it seem that head hit 3 does much more dmg?
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Witter
Mon Apr 12, 2004 3:29 am
#1
even with a medium AP LVA with dmg in the upper 500's-low 600's it seems that the swordsman always deal ALOT more dmg to the mind than i do to the action pool, is there a reason for it? i have speed tapes (up to 100 spd) so it shouldn't be an issue of who is hitting fastest.
antares_Kauri
Mon Apr 12, 2004 5:41 am
#2
That's probable. Blast damage and it's also likely that headhit3 has a better damage multiplier than leghit3 (which is 2.5x)
antares
master pikeman
master pikeman
ArkMindSpear
Mon Apr 12, 2004 8:59 am
#3
yeah, what antares said.
The weapons do more damage in general.
The multipliers are generally higher for all skills.
And depending on the target, blast damage will do more damage, but simalarly so will kinetic do more than blast.
Vshbaa
Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:22 pm
#5
Swordsman is supposed to be a slow, hard hitting class.
We hit hard but our weapons damage range makes it so we get some really low hits.
PadreBook
Mon Apr 12, 2004 4:14 pm
#6
Vshbaa wrote:Swordsman is supposed to be a slow, hard hitting class.We hit hard but our weapons damage range makes it so we get some really low hits.
Supposed to be is the operative phrase. You have to understand that Pikeman has the Developer assigned to it that is a little lacking in reliable work ethics and communication skills. That is to say, he doesn't read the forums, has very little idea how the professions he is in charge of (of which Pike is only one undersupported class) work, has no idea how they function in relation to other professions either for balance comparison or interdependency issues, has no interest in communicating meaningfully with us either directly or through our Correspondent.
I mean this is the same guy that refuses to document the BE crafting system except to say that current cl10 pets are overpowered, 9 months and he won't answer that profession's basic question of 'how is cl calculated.' This braintrust has no concept of how useless our defenses are in comparison with every other brawler profession (Block allows half damage AND doesn't work at all unless you have Center of Being up)--that is so far out of whack/balance that if he can't see it it's because he is playing KoToR instead of working on SWG. Our description is that of the 'hardest hitting profession' yeah right, that's what the Swordsman profession is and there has not been one thing done in support of what our function is. But guess what he's never going to read any of the posts in here that elaborate exactly what's wrong with Pikeman. He'd have to care first.
Padre
Dunklemaus
Mon Apr 12, 2004 7:22 pm
#7
I disagree with PadreBook 
I dont think the pikeman/bio-engineer developer is playing KotoR, I think hes busily filling out applications to be transfered to the EQ2 team.
Other than that, PadreBook is spot on 
BMGundam
Mon Apr 12, 2004 10:34 pm
#8
Dunklemaus wrote:I disagree with PadreBook
I dont think the pikeman/bio-engineer developer is playing KotoR, I think hes busily filling out applications to be transfered to the EQ2 team.
Other than that, PadreBook is spot on
LMAO
antares_Kauri
Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:05 am
#9
Someone on the swordsman board put up the damage multiplier numbers. They have3 AoE attacks with 3.0x (the best we have is 2.75) and their headhit3 is a 3.5x unlike our leghit3 that is 2.5x...
antares
master pikeman
PadreBook
Tue Apr 13, 2004 8:51 am
#10
antares_Kauri wrote:Someone on the swordsman board put up the damage multiplier numbers. They have3 AoE attacks with 3.0x (the best we have is 2.75) and their headhit3 is a 3.5x unlike our leghit3 that is 2.5x...antaresmaster pikeman
Hmm further evidence that the Devs love Swordsmen, either that or Swordsman just has a good Developer unlike us with our stapler loving basement dwelling developer.
Padre
PadreBook
Tue Apr 13, 2004 8:53 am
#11
Speaking of things, where is Gunman? Everytime we bring up anything of this ilk he stops posting for a few days. Also I notice that now that we have started pointing out comparisons with Swordsman that the posting maniac StGabriel is no longer posting here. I guess the truth is a little hard to handle.
Padre
Padre
antares_Kauri
Tue Apr 13, 2004 8:58 am
#12
These aren't posts intended to generate competition or a rift with swordsmen, it's just the numbers and facts, which happen to clearly show that pikemen generally have lower numbers for everything, defense, offense, etc than most other classes. It's a trend.
And Gunman was posting last night.
antares
master pikeman
And Gunman was posting last night.
antares
master pikeman
PadreBook
Tue Apr 13, 2004 9:22 am
#13
antares_Kauri wrote:
These aren't posts intended to generate competition or a rift with swordsmen, it's just the numbers and facts, which happen to clearly show that pikemen generally have lower numbers for everything, defense, offense, etc than most other classes. It's a trend.
And Gunman was posting last night.
antares
master pikeman
I read those posts just now and so what? He's not either telling me to piss off you'll take the inaction and like it or telling me well really the Dev is actually communicating with me about a lot of super secret if we told you we'd have to kill sort of stuff that will be the cat's meow for Pikeman. I'm not seeing anything on either end of the spectrum here. So until I see that the Developer is actually punching his timecard and doing some work for a change, which get communicated somehow to us, I'm going to keep harping on it. Why am I so down on Swordsman, well guess what it's easier to get something nerfed than something improved, so if they get nerfed we'll at least be balanced with them. And more importantly, calling for a nerf might get some attention even as bad as it would be over here in the unread forum.
Padre
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