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Thread: New Master, and a PvP tip request

Mercurion
Tue Feb 24, 2004 11:16 am
#1

Let me start out by saying: woot!. Ok, that's out of my system. I'm a new master pikeman. Mastered monday, in fact. I ground up the profession pretty hard (rare for me as I'm a non-holo follower, and typically a casual player), so I don't know what a lot of our moves do to humaniods. I am well versed when it comes to bludgeoning quenkers, however humanoid targets are an entirely different animal. I'm aware on a basic level that spin2 and area2 can dizzy, sweep1 is KD, sweep2 is area KD, and hit3 is a posturechange, but beyond that, what is effective for PvPing?


Last night, monday, I was involved in some PC killing while defending my home city on Talus, and my most effective tactic was to stay covert, and use group TEF to sneak up behind my intended adversary, spin2 him, and then sweep him. I think switched to my NS lance and gave him a hearty dose of disease and left him dizzy on the floor to go help a friend.


My skills are tk 2/0/0/1, Master Pikeman, 2/4/4/0 doctor, and that's all. Also, I have +86 total polearm speed, so special speed isn't a problem, and if I'm PvPing, I've buffed myself, so HAM isn't an issue either.


Other than linking the faq and/or tips for beginners in your reply, do you have any suggestions as to ways that I can survive combat when overt? Or other, more effective killing methods? Please, share your insights.



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whyhellothere
Tue Feb 24, 2004 12:45 pm
#2

ok get all the stuff that anyone needs for pvp, like good food, good drugs, good armour etc.....

for pikemen:

nightsister lances - poisons and fire prefably mind
use warcry and intimadate a lot - though warcry is changing with next publish
use polearmhit2 more than3 if u intend to put ppl on their ass - cos sweep/dizzy will put them on their ass but polearmhit3's posture change brings them back up.


hope that helps

Ikewa
charvakas
Tue Feb 24, 2004 2:43 pm
#3



whyhellothere wrote:
ok get all the stuff that anyone needs for pvp, like good food, good drugs, good armour etc.....

for pikemen:

nightsister lances - poisons and fire prefably mind
use warcry and intimadate a lot - though warcry is changing with next publish
use polearmhit2 more than3 if u intend to put ppl on their ass - cos sweep/dizzy will put them on their ass but polearmhit3's posture change brings them back up.


hope that helps

Ikewa


I don't understand how a posture change down brings somebody back up.



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Aros_Atox
Tue Feb 24, 2004 5:35 pm
#4

I don't know why, but it does, it is the same in PvE. If you knock something down, and then hit them again with another KD attack, or a posture change attack, the creature will stand right back up.
Psykeman420-HS
Tue Feb 24, 2004 6:42 pm
#5

DONT GO OVERT!!!

use TEFs

use a ns lance or wood staff for specials swap to lva for dmg or vl when kdd, getting dizzy/kd defenses is a help..



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OutbackWookiee
Wed Feb 25, 2004 12:37 am
#6







Psykeman420-HS wrote:
DONT GO OVERT!!!

use TEFs

use a ns lance or wood staff for specials swap to lva for dmg or vl when kdd, getting dizzy/kd defenses is a help..






Spoken like true rebel scum, go figure.



Group tef is the lamest PvP tactic in this game and needs to be removed. Using it not only sullies you but all pikemen. If you can't go overt and fight like a man, then stay covert and find a nice apron to hide behind and let the real men fight.


I used to be a group tef ho like yourself until I found myself on the receiving end of it a couple of times. I will go overt every time if I'm PvPing, even if it means Ihave to run back to AH from Bestine. There is nothing that sucks more then attacking one guy and seeing 8 red dots surround you.


Please, do the whole community a favor and be one of the fewpeople who refuse to participate in juvenile group-tef wars.


If you're going to PvP, go overt. It's just that simple.




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teamdoa
Wed Feb 25, 2004 5:35 am
#7






whyhellothere wrote:
have to agree with legwand here...

group TEF sucks... the worse part being the clone wars.

Just feels **edit**en ridiculous when ur nailing the same unbuffed guys over and over again...

Ikewa





umm, I might be wrong but I think his post was really saying that Pikemen are so poor at PVP at the moment, the Teff .....oh, forget it.



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Braglor
Wed Feb 25, 2004 5:52 am
#8






Mercurion wrote:


use group TEF to sneak up behind my intended adversary, spin2 him, and then sweep him. I think switched to my NS lance and gave him a hearty dose of disease and left him dizzy on the floor


Hehe, very sneaky indeed Sounds a lot like me when I'm going up against the ATSTs. Thank God they got lower kinetic resistancenow so that I may slay them faster

bmeenan
Wed Feb 25, 2004 6:29 am
#9

Congrats on Master Ce'tith. I'm on Chilly too and will be glad to see another Master around.


I think the key to PvP tactics, first and foremost, is practice, practice, practice. It's really just a matter of logging time in battle against others. First few fightsyou get owned because of nerves and the like. I'm not great at PvP but I get better with every fight. Here's my quick list for consideration...


1. Prepare mind by eating food and spice. With some brandy and muon you can have all three mind stats at 1000 or 2000+.


2. Buffed of course.


3. Don't spam specials right away. Get in to battle, think about your next 2 to 3 moves, do them, and then wait a little bit to decide what's best next. Remember that as pikeman we're great tanks and can take the hits. I've noticing when I do die that it takes even the uber defensing stacking pvp experts types LONGER to kill pikeman then most others.


4. The defense against knockdown food has worked wonders for me in the last few battles.


5. It seems in most melee fights, it's all about who lands dizzy first. Usually, I'll throw a dizzy as soon as I'm within range and then start working to knock them down. Once they're down, just start chipping away at their ham with the most powerful move we can throw (for me, I use polearmHit3.)


6. I'm not too worried about weapon speed in PvP. I use a really night standard LVA that has a good damage slice.


7. Combat Medics - Ok, these guys are tough but here's the best solution I've found. If you have maxed out mind and get hit with poison and desease you probably have about 20 seconds max before you're dead. If it happens, you'll probably lose, but before you go down, use the tab key to find where that CM is and burst run right towards them. Close the gap, entirely, and knock them down on their CM arse and hit them good. You may get lucky and take them down or land a dizzy which will keep them busy and allow your friends to either escape or finish the job. Plus it freaks them out to see a pikeman runnning at them.


Anyway, that's my few cents for ya. Would love to hear other good PvP tactics for Pikeman.


/salutes


Rayner


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whyhellothere
Wed Feb 25, 2004 1:19 pm
#10

have to agree with legwand here...

group TEF sucks... the worse part being the clone wars.

Just feels **edit**en ridiculous when ur nailing the same unbuffed guys over and over again...

Ikewa
charvakas
Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:55 pm
#11

which food gives KD defense?


I'm trying to figure out the best strategy for defeating a friend of mine. he's a pistoleer/fencer/dirty fighting smuggler. to spite my KD defense as a pikeman, lowblow still screws me over. and his huge KD defense keeps my sweeps from knocking HIM down. I can get him dizzy, but I can't for the life of me knock him over.


I don't have any nightsister lances, but I have good composite and PSGs, vasarian brandy and doc buffs. what do you think my best strategy would be for making this guy suffer?





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Ssedi
Sat Feb 28, 2004 9:00 pm
#12

First intemidate him. Intemidate neglates all bonus like dodge and counterattack. Then warcry and pummel him with your LVA.



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charvakas
Sun Feb 29, 2004 3:43 pm
#13






Ssedi wrote:
First intemidate him. Intemidate neglates all bonus like dodge and counterattack. Then warcry and pummel him with your LVA.




and if I'm NOT a master brawler?



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