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Thread: Need Advice On pike
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Asudek
Thu Dec 02, 2004 7:18 am
#1
Ok, so im mastering pike, 4244, as of today. Wondering what the most effective killing combo is in just pike skills. Once im master planning on doing lots of Ranc hunting, NS killing, and well you get the picture. Also if there are any pike/rifle combos reading this, let me know what works well for PVP, if im to do it solo. Thanks guys.
Also for those of you reading this on Flurry server, looking for sellers of pike or axes with min damage wavering around 200. If there are such things, drop me an ingame mail
Asudek Lantr
Master rill hunter extrordinaire
Flurry server
VacaXXX
Fri Dec 03, 2004 7:14 am
#2
Maste Pikeman, Brawler and swordsman? with some medic thrown in?
coredo
Fri Dec 03, 2004 12:59 pm
#3
This is what I may do with my character.
Master Brawler
Master Pikeman
Swordsman 0/0/4/0
Fencer 4/0/4/0
Novice Medic
And it would leave your 41 skills points to dabble.
Template highlights (Note this was taken from a beta character template program Im assuming the values are right)
You'd be able to do Kinetic, Electricity, Energy (With a NSEL), and Blast using a power hammer
Berserk +20
Block +115
Counterattack +75
Defense vs Blind +60
Defense vs Dizzy +80
Defense vs Intimidate +20
Defense vs Knockdown +35
Defense vs Posture Change +40
Defense vs Stun +50
Dodge +75
Injury Treatment +5
Injury Treatment Speed +5
Intimidation +20
Medical Foraging +10
Medicine Assembly +10
Medicine Experimentation +10
Medicine Use +5
Melee Defense +121
Melee Mitigation +7
One-handed Melee Toughness +37
One-handed Weapon Accuracy +75
One-handed Weapon Center of being duration +23
One-handed weapon Center of being efficacy +65
One-handed Weapon Speed +40
Polearm Accuracy +155
Polearm Center of being duration +35
Polearm Center of being efficacy +115
Polearm Speed +80
Polearm Toughness +31
Ranged Defense +109
Taunt +40
Two-handed Melee Accuracy +70
Two-handed Melee Center of being +31
Two-handed melee Center of being efficacy +105
Two-handed Melee Speed +40
Two-handed Melee Toughness +40
Unarmed Accuracy +55
Unarmed Center of being +10
Unarmed Center of being duration +13
Unarmed Center of being efficacy +45
Unarmed Damage +45
Unarmed Speed +30
Unarmed Toughness +25
Warcry +20
Wound Treatment +5
Block +115
Counterattack +75
Defense vs Blind +60
Defense vs Dizzy +80
Defense vs Intimidate +20
Defense vs Knockdown +35
Defense vs Posture Change +40
Defense vs Stun +50
Dodge +75
Injury Treatment +5
Injury Treatment Speed +5
Intimidation +20
Medical Foraging +10
Medicine Assembly +10
Medicine Experimentation +10
Medicine Use +5
Melee Defense +121
Melee Mitigation +7
One-handed Melee Toughness +37
One-handed Weapon Accuracy +75
One-handed Weapon Center of being duration +23
One-handed weapon Center of being efficacy +65
One-handed Weapon Speed +40
Polearm Accuracy +155
Polearm Center of being duration +35
Polearm Center of being efficacy +115
Polearm Speed +80
Polearm Toughness +31
Ranged Defense +109
Taunt +40
Two-handed Melee Accuracy +70
Two-handed Melee Center of being +31
Two-handed melee Center of being efficacy +105
Two-handed Melee Speed +40
Two-handed Melee Toughness +40
Unarmed Accuracy +55
Unarmed Center of being +10
Unarmed Center of being duration +13
Unarmed Center of being efficacy +45
Unarmed Damage +45
Unarmed Speed +30
Unarmed Toughness +25
Warcry +20
Wound Treatment +5
annelid0
Fri Dec 03, 2004 3:42 pm
#4
coredo wrote:This is what I may do with my character.Master BrawlerMaster PikemanSwordsman 0/0/4/0Fencer 4/0/4/0Novice Medic
Why 0040 swords? If you did 0400 swords instead you give up CoB (which is useless against Elders) and a little defense, but you'd get improved speed and headhit3, which is easily their most effective attack.
coredo
Fri Dec 03, 2004 3:50 pm
#5
annelid0 wrote:
coredo wrote:
This is what I may do with my character.
Master Brawler
Master Pikeman
Swordsman 0/0/4/0
Fencer 4/0/4/0
Novice Medic
Why 0040 swords? If you did 0400 swords instead you give up CoB (which is useless against Elders) and a little defense, but you'd get improved speed and headhit3, which is easily their most effective attack.
I'd rarely use the the 2 handed weapons, Im interested in increasing Melee Mitigattion, Melee Def, Ranged Def, and Defense against Knock down
darylr
Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:55 pm
#6
You should probably look at TK instead of swords then. First, Melee Mitigation from swords won't work unless you are using a sword, unless they changed that recently. Second, TKA has a much easier time leveling the Melee/ranged defense tree (combat xp) uses less skill points, as the last in the branch is worthless, and gives higher defense. Just a thought.
coredo wrote:
annelid0 wrote:
coredo wrote:
This is what I may do with my character.
Master Brawler
Master Pikeman
Swordsman 0/0/4/0
Fencer 4/0/4/0
Novice Medic
Why 0040 swords? If you did 0400 swords instead you give up CoB (which is useless against Elders) and a little defense, but you'd get improved speed and headhit3, which is easily their most effective attack.
I'd rarely use the the 2 handed weapons, Im interested in increasing Melee Mitigattion, Melee Def, Ranged Def, and Defense against Knock down
StellarSwordsman
Tue Dec 07, 2004 6:13 am
#7
VacaXXX wrote:
Maste Pikeman, Brawler and swordsman? with some medic thrown in?
Hehe...thats my template with fencer 0020 and FS melee speed, accuray, and defense 
I have medic 2000 BTW....gotta stop the bleeds
Liander
Tue Dec 07, 2004 6:26 am
#8
unless you are going for jedi which i am not...getting the melee acc tree is pointless...drop a citros and i never miss...and since the force attacks from ns are unblockable by armor...ithelps to have more than 2000 medic...that little of fencer is pointless...so why waste skill points...all you can use is stim b's...i can use d's and e's...which heal for a ton more than b's...its all a matter of preference...but the skill points you have wrapped up in fencer should be applied to medic to allow yourself more healing opportunities. not only that...but if you want to pvp...your template is gonna get flat beat down because they can deal dmg faster than you can heal it...with d's and e's i can completely heal my bars and be ready for more ... using b's you can't...but thats just my $0.02
StellarSwordsman
Tue Dec 07, 2004 8:29 am
#9
Liander wrote:
unless you are going for jedi which i am not...getting the melee acc tree is pointless...drop a citros and i never miss...and since the force attacks from ns are unblockable by armor...ithelps to have more than 2000 medic...that little of fencer is pointless...so why waste skill points...all you can use is stim b's...i can use d's and e's...which heal for a ton more than b's...its all a matter of preference...but the skill points you have wrapped up in fencer should be applied to medic to allow yourself more healing opportunities. not only that...but if you want to pvp...your template is gonna get flat beat down because they can deal dmg faster than you can heal it...with d's and e's i can completely heal my bars and be ready for more ... using b's you can't...but thats just my $0.02
LOL!!!
Do you think I cant deal out damage or sumthing??? Lemme see here....I can couple my 290 str mind poison lance with a mind hit 3 using a 920 max damage hammer, then head hit 3 till they are dead. I think you focus too much on defense and not enough on offense. BTW the longest duel ive ever had has lasted about 45 seconds....and that isnt enough time to beat down 2400 buffs unless u got an uber DOT or some sort of exceptional weapon. Anyway, I mostly PvE and the medic 2000 is quite enough for me. Using a BE shirt, I can heal 1000 health and action at once.
Liander
Tue Dec 07, 2004 9:29 am
#10
Well...then the fencers on your server must suck or the stun batons there are shyt...one of the two...cuz any master fencer with a 320+ stun baton would dz/kd you then commence with a serious beating...at least i know they do on bloodfin...dot don't mean crap...and any GOOD pvp'er has doc skils as their template because of the dot scene...which means that 290 dot you put on them might get to tick once...but once again...if they have their mind set at 1100...with mind buffs...2200...2 X 420 brandy...mind at 3k now...two 1100 vercupti...now mind and main stats at over 5k...so once again...your pvp'ers must suck...cuz it will take you longer than 45 seconds to do 5k dmg in pvp...have a nice day
StellarSwordsman
Tue Dec 07, 2004 9:35 am
#11
Liander wrote:
Well...then the fencers on your server must suck or the stun batons there are shyt...one of the two...cuz any master fencer with a 320+ stun baton would dz/kd you then commence with a serious beating...at least i know they do on bloodfin...dot don't mean crap...and any GOOD pvp'er has doc skils as their template because of the dot scene...which means that 290 dot you put on them might get to tick once...but once again...if they have their mind set at 1100...with mind buffs...2200...2 X 420 brandy...mind at 3k now...two 1100 vercupti...now mind and main stats at over 5k...so once again...your pvp'ers must suck...cuz it will take you longer than 45 seconds to do 5k dmg in pvp...have a nice day
Once again LOL!!!
Well you have offcially jacked this dudes thread btw......ever heard of thaktkillo?? And 40% stun comp + imp PSG???
K im done talkin to the noob now 
Liander
Tue Dec 07, 2004 1:30 pm
#13
OK...well...Pikeman can solo just about everything in the game...and the things that pikeman can't solo a swordsman can...so if you are Master Brawler/Master Pikeman/Master Swordsman/2340 Medic/0004 Combat Prowess, you will be able to take down everything in the game short of spiderclan elders...You will need +5 in Swordsman to Cap most Acklay Hammers I have ever own/seen...a +9 Pike Speed and you will easily cap any Pike you loot or buy. The medic skills give you the ability to heal bleed, and use stim d's...which can be a life saver when you go against elders...get yourself some nice be clothes. Inj/Wound treatment +25 pantaloons is what i use with a prenerf ubese shirt with my speed/acc mods and you are good to go...get a int/warcry bandolier and go to town...intimidate2 and warcry is the best things to use against the high level mobs...so hot key it. If you are mind buffed and have 80/80 armor...you will be fine...get some good ahrisa, brandy, citros, and synthsteak and have at it. Kill Acklay and get some 190+ bones...get some 620+ hammers made...get a good slice...now over 800 max...and you will own a elder in 5 min or so...good luck to you man.
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