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Thread: PIKEMAN CAN TANK THE GROUPS!

Tsara-
Mon Oct 03, 2005 3:42 am
#1

If u guyz too having problems while finding a grinding group, u can start one and say ur the tank...Ppl think that only jedi can tank the groups but y/day i tanked 2 groups and none of us got incapped . All u have to do is open ur COB macro and area KD and spin the lair.my template is Mpike/TKM and doc 4xxx(which is the most popular one nowadays) and i have no problem while tanking. theres 1 thing that can cause problem, if 1 of ur groupmembers is outdamaging u the whole lair will go after him..tho in this situation u need to tell them to use crappy weapons well if the group has another healer that would be ur advantage too, then u dont even need to eat food


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antares_Kauri
Mon Oct 03, 2005 7:13 am
#2

MPike/TKM is a great tanking set-up, you can do very very well with that template.

antares



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Tsara-
Mon Oct 03, 2005 7:36 am
#3

yup its great both in pvp and pve..i can also beat full temp jedi....not the pre-cu ones yet tho




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-sc0ob
Tue Oct 04, 2005 1:09 pm
#4






Neomonk wrote:






-sc0ob wrote:


i took like 80 damage off lvl 82 pikets while i see jedi with improved aura on taking 122 dmg.




As a Master Defender, I usually take 60-90 damage from cl 82 creatures (depending on the creature). To get the full benefit as a tank, you need Master Defender.





yea agreed but Mpike/TKM isnt bar behind which is nice



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-sc0ob
Wed Oct 05, 2005 12:33 am
#5


i reckon i good pike tank cud solo the missions that we do as a grp, but wud be quite tricky, though pikes are way better tanks than jedi IMO, when i was pike/tk/doc 4xxx (regrinding atm ) i took like 80 damage off lvl 82 pikets while i see jedi with improved aura on taking 122 dmg.



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Neomonk
Wed Oct 05, 2005 12:44 am
#6






-sc0ob wrote:


i took like 80 damage off lvl 82 pikets while i see jedi with improved aura on taking 122 dmg.




As a Master Defender, I usually take 60-90 damage from cl 82 creatures (depending on the creature). To get the full benefit as a tank, you need Master Defender.



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Foomerang
Wed Oct 05, 2005 12:49 am
#7

agreed, imho pikeman just slightly edge out jedi for main tank in a group. we can do more damage to hold aggro, and have some nice debuffs to go with area attacks and sweeps. tanking isnt just taking damage, its keepingdamage focusedon you. mtk is nice for taunt pulls off of your group members as well.



Neomonk
Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:02 am
#8






-sc0ob wrote:





Neomonk wrote:






-sc0ob wrote:


i took like 80 damage off lvl 82 pikets while i see jedi with improved aura on taking 122 dmg.




As a Master Defender, I usually take 60-90 damage from cl 82 creatures (depending on the creature). To get the full benefit as a tank, you need Master Defender.





yea agreed but Mpike/TKM isnt bar behind which is nice






I think thats what I am going for with my new character. I'll see how it compares to my Jedi.


The only thing I have trouble with as a tank with my Jedi is keeping agro. I have Dominate Mind, but its taunt and only effects a single target. With a Swordsman in my group, I tend to lose agro to that person every once in a while. It will be nice to see how my TKM/Pike character works.



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Steegee
Wed Oct 05, 2005 2:54 pm
#9


the only benefit i see for having a jedi mdefender tank over a tkm/mpike/4000doc is the jedi has the emergency AI button. Much better to waste the 1k force than to let people heal you and get agro, then incap.... creates a mess of groups sometimes... Other than that the best tank would be mdefender with FA and aura running... nearly 800 melee defense let alone capped armor.


However, my regular spin group always has a pikeman/tkm/4000doc... Aekd and ae warcry is just so nice





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Tsara-
Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:44 am
#10






Steegee wrote:


the only benefit i see for having a jedi mdefender tank over a tkm/mpike/4000doc is the jedi has the emergency AI button. Much better to waste the 1k force than to let people heal you and get agro, then incap.... creates a mess of groups sometimes... Other than that the best tank would be mdefender with FA and aura running... nearly 800 melee defense let alone capped armor.


However, my regular spin group always has a pikeman/tkm/4000doc... Aekd and ae warcry is just so nice







yes but a m def hitting AI 2 times and having his FA on will get his force down so fast, so the group will have to wait for him to fill his force again and again after the lairs..WE mpike/tkm and doc xxx4 s never have that problem, we can tank faster...and u dont need a mdef to tank all the time...any pre-cu jedican tank the groups..with their precu sabers or pearls they outdmg all ...all u need to do is heal him a little and area KD...when u area KD when u first start the lair, the mobs will be dead be4 they stand up again...thats what we do in our guild groups when we have a precu jedi in the group...




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jamMaa
Thu Oct 06, 2005 6:34 am
#11



Tsara- wrote:


Steegee wrote:

the only benefit i see for having a jedi mdefender tank over a tkm/mpike/4000doc is the jedi has the emergency AI button. Much better to waste the 1k force than to let people heal you and get agro, then incap.... creates a mess of groups sometimes... Other than that the best tank would be mdefender with FA and aura running... nearly 800 melee defense let alone capped armor.

However, my regular spin group always has a pikeman/tkm/4000doc... Aekd and ae warcry is just so nice




yes but a m def hitting AI 2 times and having his FA on will get his force down so fast, so the group will have to wait for him to fill his force again and again after the lairs..WE mpike/tkm and doc xxx4 s never have that problem, we can tank faster...and u dont need a mdef to tank all the time...any pre-cu jedi can tank the groups..with their precu sabers or pearls they outdmg all ...all u need to do is heal him a little and area KD...when u area KD when u first start the lair, the mobs will be dead be4 they stand up again...thats what we do in our guild groups when we have a precu jedi in the group...





I think you mean pre cu pearls, jedi could be post cu. ANd while Mdef has AI they can't tank as long as me, and must regen much longer. Ofcourse i can't tank DJM



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Efactor
Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:07 am
#12






jamMaa wrote:





Tsara- wrote:





Steegee wrote:


the only benefit i see for having a jedi mdefender tank over a tkm/mpike/4000doc is the jedi has the emergency AI button. Much better to waste the 1k force than to let people heal you and get agro, then incap.... creates a mess of groups sometimes... Other than that the best tank would be mdefender with FA and aura running... nearly 800 melee defense let alone capped armor.


However, my regular spin group always has a pikeman/tkm/4000doc... Aekd and ae warcry is just so nice







yes but a m def hitting AI 2 times and having his FA on will get his force down so fast, so the group will have to wait for him to fill his force again and again after the lairs..WE mpike/tkm and doc xxx4 s never have that problem, we can tank faster...and u dont need a mdef to tank all the time...any pre-cu jedi can tank the groups..with their precu sabers or pearls they outdmg all ...all u need to do is heal him a little and area KD...when u area KD when u first start the lair, the mobs will be dead be4 they stand up again...thats what we do in our guild groups when we have a precu jedi in the group...







I think you mean pre cu pearls, jedi could be post cu. ANd while Mdef has AI they can't tank as long as me, and must regen much longer. Ofcourse i can't tank DJM




I think they mean that their sabers are pre-cu. pre-cu sabers are much better than ones made post-cu



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Tsara-
Fri Oct 07, 2005 3:43 am
#13






jamMaa wrote:





Tsara- wrote:





Steegee wrote:


the only benefit i see for having a jedi mdefender tank over a tkm/mpike/4000doc is the jedi has the emergency AI button. Much better to waste the 1k force than to let people heal you and get agro, then incap.... creates a mess of groups sometimes... Other than that the best tank would be mdefender with FA and aura running... nearly 800 melee defense let alone capped armor.


However, my regular spin group always has a pikeman/tkm/4000doc... Aekd and ae warcry is just so nice







yes but a m def hitting AI 2 times and having his FA on will get his force down so fast, so the group will have to wait for him to fill his force again and again after the lairs..WE mpike/tkm and doc xxx4 s never have that problem, we can tank faster...and u dont need a mdef to tank all the time...any pre-cu jedi can tank the groups..with their precu sabers or pearls they outdmg all ...all u need to do is heal him a little and area KD...when u area KD when u first start the lair, the mobs will be dead be4 they stand up again...thats what we do in our guild groups when we have a precu jedi in the group...







I think you mean pre cu pearls, jedi could be post cu. ANd while Mdef has AI they can't tank as long as me, and must regen much longer. Ofcourse i can't tank DJM




well yea i mean the pre-cu pearls and pre-cu sabers....and can be also post-cu saber with pre-cu pearls/crystals




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