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Thread: Pikeman Broke Issue[Melee Migiration]
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kardia
Mon Mar 07, 2005 8:18 am
#1
Hello I was lookin at the pikeman issues and I saw that it said that pikeman toughness is not a high. Well I just to submit to you guys that I don't think it is the toughness of pikeman I think melee migiration 3 simple doesn't work for pikeman unless you have another melee migiration3 profession. I think somone needs to look at that , I was doing test with my Jedi against all melee professoin and pikeman takes twices as damage as a TK, Fencer, or Swordman.
What do you guys think?
Try it out see if I am missing something.
Tempestmage
Mon Mar 07, 2005 9:22 am
#2
it works with me but its our toughness thaT MAKES us take more damage.
Kyodor
Mon Mar 07, 2005 9:39 am
#3
Pike has the second worst Toughness in the game.
TKM > Sword > Pike > Fencer.
However Fencer is by far a lot stronger than on the list - as this is just toughness, and does not include Fencer's insane dodge ability.
Melee Mitigation works for all professions as far as I know.
TKM > Sword > Pike > Fencer.
However Fencer is by far a lot stronger than on the list - as this is just toughness, and does not include Fencer's insane dodge ability.
Melee Mitigation works for all professions as far as I know.
SeCKSEgai
Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:07 am
#4
I can vouch for a fact that its toughness from my experience in mastering all the melee profs, fighting unarmored in all the melee profs, and from fighting high level mobs, player jedi, and other player duels.
annelid0
Mon Mar 07, 2005 3:46 pm
#5
Kyodor wrote:
Pike has the second worst Toughness in the game.
TKM > Sword > Pike > Fencer.
However Fencer is by far a lot stronger than on the list - as this is just toughness, and does not include Fencer's insane dodge ability.
Melee Mitigation works for all professions as far as I know.
Actually, fencer does have a little more toughness than we do:
TKM = 57
Sword = 43
Fencer = 32
Pike = 26
(add 5 to each w/ master brawler)
Where we also get hurt is block's utter crappyness when compared to both dodge and counterattack.
VacaXXX
Tue Mar 08, 2005 6:51 am
#7
Yeh, Mitigation is probably the wors thing they added, but remember when they did it PvP was like 3-4 seconds long,
maybe they just need to take it out...............
if you need some help testing this out, send me a tell, i am just master pikeman..........
Message Edited by VacaXXX on 03-08-2005 05:52 AM
SolSpur
Tue Mar 08, 2005 8:59 am
#8
Overall pikeman get the short end of the stick which is sad.
-lowest toughness
-block does not prevent damage like counterattack and doge
-mitigation hurts our weapons more then any other melee profession due to the huge gap between min an max damage.
-polearm evasion and damage tapes are broken
-lowest toughness
-block does not prevent damage like counterattack and doge
-mitigation hurts our weapons more then any other melee profession due to the huge gap between min an max damage.
-polearm evasion and damage tapes are broken
BizzyNinja
Tue Mar 08, 2005 11:57 am
#9
SolSpur wrote:
Overall pikeman get the short end of the stick which is sad.
-lowest toughness
-block does not prevent damage like counterattack and doge
-mitigation hurts our weapons more then any other melee profession due to the huge gap between min an max damage.
-polearm evasion and damage tapes are broken
Any evasion and damage mods are broken with the exception of unarmed damage.
Kyodor
Tue Mar 08, 2005 12:33 pm
#10
Actually, fencer does have a little more toughness than we do:
I stand corrected
In general, the Secondary defence stats are a mess. Block is rather dodgy, and TK's DA is hardly effective. If I remember correctly, Im sure Unarmed Damage tapes don't work - so that would be all damage tapes being useless.
I stand corrected
In general, the Secondary defence stats are a mess. Block is rather dodgy, and TK's DA is hardly effective. If I remember correctly, Im sure Unarmed Damage tapes don't work - so that would be all damage tapes being useless.
Goldenstar10
Tue Mar 08, 2005 2:07 pm
#11
Kyodor wrote:
Actually, fencer does have a little more toughness than we do:
I stand corrected
In general, the Secondary defence stats are a mess. Block is rather dodgy, and TK's DA is hardly effective. If I remember correctly, Im sure Unarmed Damage tapes don't work - so that would be all damage tapes being useless.
Actualy unarmed damage does work. If i'm correct all the damage mods would work but all damage skill mods except for tk were removed from the game.
Merauder
Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:50 pm
#12
Goldenstar10 wrote:
Kyodor wrote:
Actually, fencer does have a little more toughness than we do:
I stand corrected
In general, the Secondary defence stats are a mess. Block is rather dodgy, and TK's DA is hardly effective. If I remember correctly, Im sure Unarmed Damage tapes don't work - so that would be all damage tapes being useless.
Actualy unarmed damage does work. If i'm correct all the damage mods would work but all damage skill mods except for tk were removed from the game.
Ryutek wrote:
Unarmed Damage Attachments do not work. The Issue is known to the Developers, and will be corrected with the Combat Upgrade (per the Developers themselves).
Hard Caps are on Dodge, Block, Counterattack, Melee Defense, and Ranged Defense of +125, which can be reached through a combination of skills and tapes/attachments. The only things that will help beyond the +125 cap are Chef Foods and Squad Leader Bonuses.
According to the TKA FAQ, Unarmed Damage SEAs don't work.
At one point I read a few people saying they did, but I think the final revised bottom line is now that they currently don't.
Message Edited by Merauder on 03-10-2005 06:45 PM
wong-fei-hung
Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:39 pm
#13
Just to settle the little unarmed damage debate going here... the mod works, the seas for the mod do not 
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