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Thread: OMG! what is wrong with these developers! another new swordsman weapon?! a new TK wpn! where's o

Astyanax
Wed Apr 14, 2004 8:08 am
#1

You know what's funny? Pikemen can't even GET their rare weapon because the mob that drops it has 100% kinetic and electricity resists.

*sigh*



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annelid0
Wed Apr 14, 2004 8:29 am
#2


Dynastar wrote:
Would you rather have a new weapon, or still have the highest number of looted weapons of all professions?



I would rather have several viable crafted weapon choices than have even the nicest looted weapons. We may have the highest number of looted weapons, but the vast majority are junk, and the good ones are going to come back to bite us in the ass if our other problems are ever fixed.

Aside from high-damage LVAs, almost all our looted weapons are not really useful in PvE. Poison, fire, and disease allow us to compete in PvP because the way those are handled is unbalanced with other damage types in PvP. Everyone (including many pikemen) cries to nerf CMs, but when that happens where do you think the next focus is going to go? On the mind poison/fire lances, of course.

We need improvements to our current weapons, a new craftable-by-any-weaponsmith weapon at polearms 4, and some decent new schematics that aren't nearly impossible to get. Looted NS weapons are swell, but far from a replacement for having good weapons normally available to us.



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Ilykerrimo
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Omegaplex
Wed Apr 14, 2004 4:01 pm
#3

Pikemen 'super weapons' are a joke. Most of us can't even get one, and the few times you ever see one they're in the hands of camping scalpers who sit around the Queen's lair all day, none of whom are actually Pikemen themselves, and who later want to sell it to you for millions.


Screw the Devs and their dumb idea of Pikeman balance.





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Trazco, Valcyn Server
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JediQuic
Wed Apr 14, 2004 8:06 pm
#4


Its only cause your willing to pay millions for it


Anyhow My reply in the fencer forum ti the exact same topic goes here too.....Just wait a bit, it isquite likely they can still find a new piker weapon....Just be patient, if it goes live and there is still nothing there Then certainlylight a fire under the devs arse....


On a Side note the new axe is a scyth clone right now....a new weaponfor you guys right now would probably just be a lance clone till they get around to changing it

Message Edited by JediQuic on 04-14-2004 08:07 PM

Dunklemaus
Thu Apr 15, 2004 12:16 am
#5

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What he said!






A Maus
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Xeranx
Thu Apr 15, 2004 8:50 am
#6






JediQuic wrote:


Its only cause your willing to pay millions for it


Anyhow My reply in the fencer forum ti the exact same topic goes here too.....Just wait a bit, it isquite likely they can still find a new piker weapon....Just be patient, if it goes live and there is still nothing there Then certainlylight a fire under the devs arse....


On a Side note the new axe is a scyth clone right now....a new weaponfor you guys right now would probably just be a lance clone till they get around to changing it


Message Edited by JediQuic on 04-14-2004 08:07 PM




Well you'll never not find someone willing to pay millions for it.


Anyway...I'm kind of wary on tkas getting a new weapon because so many have asked for our heads declaring that we're overpowered when the other melee professions have yet to be brought up to our level. They still aren't there and it's something I look forward to.







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Master Smuggler 3-04-2004
JediQuic
Thu Apr 15, 2004 10:01 pm
#7

Its also cause your demand is so high....Lances don't usualy drop as often as the other weapons


I too wait for the day i feel balanced with TK.....Especialy with their new heat damage weapon....Granted they will **edit** about it just like commandos and riflemen....But still that is life
Dunklemaus
Thu Apr 15, 2004 11:45 pm
#8

Well I tooka good look at the new Pistoleer, Swordsman and Teras Kasi weapons. The new pistol looks goofy but is really poor in stats, the new "sword" (actually an axe) is another mediocre kinetic weapon (but looks pretty cool in a way), and as for the new Teras Kasi VK - they should just name it VibroNerfMeNowKnuckler (heat damage, ap1, 99 - 251 damage pre slice)


So Im:


1) Not impressed (pistol)


2) Wanting one for my wall to decorate (sword)


3) Happy they got another damage type, but shuddering at the damage they will do for the two weeks before the mother of all nerfs hits them (you know who)






A Maus
Self Appointed Game Warden of Dathomir
and Spokesman for Alpacas everywhere
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TurboSith
Fri Apr 16, 2004 12:22 am
#9






Xeranx wrote:





JediQuic wrote:


Its only cause your willing to pay millions for it


Anyhow My reply in the fencer forum ti the exact same topic goes here too.....Just wait a bit, it isquite likely they can still find a new piker weapon....Just be patient, if it goes live and there is still nothing there Then certainlylight a fire under the devs arse....


On a Side note the new axe is a scyth clone right now....a new weaponfor you guys right now would probably just be a lance clone till they get around to changing it


Message Edited by JediQuic on 04-14-2004 08:07 PM




Well you'll never not find someone willing to pay millions for it.


Anyway...I'm kind of wary on tkas getting a new weapon because so many have asked for our heads declaring that we're overpowered when the other melee professions have yet to be brought up to our level. They still aren't there and it's something I look forward to.









i agree... i wish i could go out there and loot it myself... but most of the time the tka, fencer, or pistoleer that thinks pikemen is a loser profession is hte one getting every decent pike out there... in a 20 elder night i was only able to get 3 pikes worth keeping and even those werent worth the excitement


balance doesnt make sense when pistoleers who have great crafted weapons can loot a good geo pistol and that may go for 6-700k but a 5-600 dmg pike will go for 1.5-2 millions because pikemen's are just desparate to get a decent pike to choose from




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Dromare
Fri Apr 16, 2004 4:33 am
#10

DONT GET TO EXCITED ALL OF US THAT ARE TKA WE STILL SUCK!
TurboSith
Fri Apr 16, 2004 5:08 am
#11






Dunklemaus wrote:

Well I tooka good look at the new Pistoleer, Swordsman and Teras Kasi weapons. The new pistol looks goofy but is really poor in stats, the new "sword" (actually an axe) is another mediocre kinetic weapon (but looks pretty cool in a way), and as for the new Teras Kasi VK - they should just name it VibroNerfMeNowKnuckler (heat damage, ap1, 99 - 251 damage pre slice)


So Im:


1) Not impressed (pistol)


2) Wanting one for my wall to decorate (sword)


3) Happy they got another damage type, but shuddering at the damage they will do for the two weeks before the mother of all nerfs hits them (you know who)








its not even that we want a new dmg type really though it is nice.... i think at this point pikemen would jsut be happy with a identical weapon that just looks better... i mean if i had a lance like the NS energy lance that only fuctioned like a regular VL or LVA i would be perfectly happy because it is a different weapon... most people with NS lance use it to run around and showoff mostly anyways...


but the thing is that the other prof are getting enw weapons with new dmg types and or functions... maybe no ar1 or low-end dmg for new dmg type.. but something new is something new...


being a DE/smuggler, and Pikeman/HS/Brawler .. i already have 3 prof which have nothign really to boast about... smugglers would die to smuggle something.... DE's would die for a new chassis... pikemen would die for a new pike that doesnt take killing one of the hardest NPCs in teh game taht is now gettign her uber force back and then having to get motors for it....



please give me a really long lead pencil so i can at least to lead poison dmg





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PadreBook
Fri Apr 16, 2004 9:36 am
#12



Witter wrote:
"blacksun executioner's hack" what the @#$%! they just got the scythe now another? http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=swordsman&message.id=28059
"blacksun razor knucklers" **edit**!
not to mention a new pistol as well, seems every class but the pikeman and fencer are getting new wpns, where is the love for us? at least fencer have those nice acklay stun batons!!





Because we have the worst Developer at SOE. I mean our profession description has 'hardest hitting weapons' or some such. Well we know that's b.soe. Look Swordsmen have several weapons that do significantly more damage including that coveted Blast damage type, not to mention they have 6 AP2 weapons and we have 1 Kinetic one that does less damage than the AP2 Blast damage one.

Not to mention the clueless one (Keldarin) doesn't even understand that 50% is far greater than 0%--I'm referring to the fact that our defense Block allows 50% damage on a Success, unlike Dodge and Counterattack which allow 0% damage. I don't know when he stopped doing math but 50% of 3000 is a lot more than 0% of 3000 (normal type hit on the Corvette). I'll restate it for him 1500 > 0. And that would be one out of several hits, whoops I mean successful Blocks. This isn't rocket science. Someone needs to hold his hand and explain that half damage is NOT acceptable game design.

Padre
Arhagellos
Fri Apr 16, 2004 1:06 pm
#13








PadreBook wrote:

Imean our profession description has 'hardest hitting weapons' or some such.






I think the wording was meant to be 'the hardest weapons to hit with' one more typo that got us all in trouble trying to play the Pikeman, ah well






Nerelith Vel'Et'Aril
Master Pikeman
Sentinel of Horus

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