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Thread: Just incase this gets deleted from teh tka forums....

ArkMindSpear
Sat Apr 17, 2004 5:50 pm
#1

They won't stop...i posted this, they'll probably have it deleted.








**edit**!?!

You are all fricking insane!!!

YOU OUT DAMAGE SWORDSMAN BY FARRRRRRRRRRR!!!!


HELLO!?!


Your damage per hit is more than a swordsman!!! But you swing 3x faster!?!


That makes your damage out put over 3x that of a swordsman!!! The class with no defenses, cool power, speed, or accuracy!!!


THATS A **edit**ING FACT!


what don't you understand!?!


On top of that you have the BEST defenses!!!


AND meditate!!!


WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU!?!


You are saying taht INSTEAD of reducing YOUR power, they should bump up EVERY OTHER proffesion in the game!?! just so you'r damage output won't get reduced!?!


**edit**!!!!!!!


Seriously how can you justify that?


It is TOO MUCH.


The ONLY thing out of ALL of melee that you don't have is stun damage, and you **edit** about that!!!


Do you know how much damage a swordsman would have to be able to do to justify their class compared to tkas?


Wiyth knucklers on your damage is about 300-450 @ 1.0...your new weapon gives you MORE damage(oh my god i know!!!)

350-500 @ 1.0


At teh speed they are now thier base damage would have to be about700-1200 @ 5.0. would you LIKE THAT!?!


And that is just so that they can catch up with you!?! Not out damage you.


Why don't you take one for the god forsaken team?


This isn't TKA:Galaxies.



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signal1941
Sat Apr 17, 2004 5:55 pm
#2

dude, perhaps instead of ranting like someone who just got owned by a tk, you should try and post a little more calmly. Maybe then it wouldn't get deleted.



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asgoia
Sat Apr 17, 2004 5:57 pm
#3

yeah i tried to **edit** at them as well.



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ScDarkKnight
Sat Apr 17, 2004 6:29 pm
#4

hahahahahhahahahhaha



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ShinjoKazuki
Sat Apr 17, 2004 8:51 pm
#5

tks suck. i out damage them daily.



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ArkMindSpear
Sat Apr 17, 2004 9:44 pm
#6

i have posted calm post afeter calm post.....


that post was the broken camel's back....




ANd if you "out damage" tkas daily.


Then you are probably either a rifleman or using some rare uber loo that hardly any one else can get....which is it?



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Jenky
Sat Apr 17, 2004 10:24 pm
#7

I play a TKA Pikeman myself... Strange that people are keep going past the fact that TKA does, only do Kintic damage(oh for the love of god with the Razor VKdiscussion... Heat is almost as useless)... 80% Resist compsite, and everyone got the defenses they need..... Strange that TKA unlike the othher standard combat classes(Rilfeman, Pistoleer, Fencer, 2H Swordsman, Pikeman, carbineer) Does not have ANY kind of dodge, counterattack or block... Instead they get a little overrated skill called Power boost, and people are talking like it's a buff.. Very short effect, and always dry off in a duel(in my experience)


Your talking like the FoW skillalways works, with it's impressive 1 Hour timer:/


It all really sums up to that, if 2H swordsman can defend themselfs long enouge, noone is safe, their defenses is their only problem, and Fencer is the best tank thx to their best defensses and all their dodge, which makes them hard to hit... and Pikeman....


I think Pikeman needs allot of love, but not by nerfing other brawler classes like TKA.


It should be noted though that im not even novice Pikeman yet, so my experience with this class might change though... Last time i was a pike, was back at launch!


-Jenky





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Timmelle
Sat Apr 17, 2004 10:33 pm
#8

Jenky TKAs get combat acuity which gives them a chance to either block, counterattack, or dodge. its in the precision line.
ChFry
Sat Apr 17, 2004 11:03 pm
#9

TKM's are fine. Leave them where they are.



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UWSkeletor
Sat Apr 17, 2004 11:38 pm
#10






Jenky wrote:

I play a TKA Pikeman myself... Strange that people are keep going past the fact that TKA does, only do Kintic damage(oh for the love of god with the Razor VKdiscussion... Heat is almost as useless)... 80% Resist compsite, and everyone got the defenses they need..... Strange that TKA unlike the othher standard combat classes(Rilfeman, Pistoleer, Fencer, 2H Swordsman, Pikeman, carbineer) Does not have ANY kind of dodge, counterattack or block... Instead they get a little overrated skill called Power boost, and people are talking like it's a buff.. Very short effect, and always dry off in a duel(in my experience)


Your talking like the FoW skillalways works, with it's impressive 1 Hour timer:/


It all really sums up to that, if 2H swordsman can defend themselfs long enouge, noone is safe, their defenses is their only problem, and Fencer is the best tank thx to their best defensses and all their dodge, which makes them hard to hit... and Pikeman....


I think Pikeman needs allot of love, but not by nerfing other brawler classes like TKA.


It should be noted though that im not even novice Pikeman yet, so my experience with this class might change though... Last time i was a pike, was back at launch!


-Jenky







Well, there's a couple of things that you've forgotten as well. TKA's get much better toughness, which allows you to tank better because you take less damage. You also have enough speed to hit the cap easily. Only having kinetic damage is not that much of a limiting factor in PvP. Any damage type besides stun is in the exact same boat as you, so Pikemen with Kinetic and Electricity are not better off than a TKM. The only professions that get stun are riflemen, fencer, and pistoleer with a looted weapon.


I would hardly call Powerboost overrated either. I use it all of the time, it adds 550 to all pools, the most important being to the mind pool. That's a huge benefit, not to mention being able to heal wounds and poisons/disease.


FOW is not that great I'll give you that, it usually only saves me when a NS is slowly walking over to kill me, but it can be a surpriser in PvP as well.





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PyscoJuggalo
Sat Apr 17, 2004 11:59 pm
#11






UWSkeletor wrote:





Jenky wrote:

I play a TKA Pikeman myself... Strange that people are keep going past the fact that TKA does, only do Kintic damage(oh for the love of god with the Razor VKdiscussion... Heat is almost as useless)... 80% Resist compsite, and everyone got the defenses they need..... Strange that TKA unlike the othher standard combat classes(Rilfeman, Pistoleer, Fencer, 2H Swordsman, Pikeman, carbineer) Does not have ANY kind of dodge, counterattack or block... Instead they get a little overrated skill called Power boost, and people are talking like it's a buff.. Very short effect, and always dry off in a duel(in my experience)


Your talking like the FoW skillalways works, with it's impressive 1 Hour timer:/


It all really sums up to that, if 2H swordsman can defend themselfs long enouge, noone is safe, their defenses is their only problem, and Fencer is the best tank thx to their best defensses and all their dodge, which makes them hard to hit... and Pikeman....


I think Pikeman needs allot of love, but not by nerfing other brawler classes like TKA.


It should be noted though that im not even novice Pikeman yet, so my experience with this class might change though... Last time i was a pike, was back at launch!


-Jenky







Well, there's a couple of things that you've forgotten as well. TKA's get much better toughness, which allows you to tank better because you take less damage. You also have enough speed to hit the cap easily. Only having kinetic damage is not that much of a limiting factor in PvP. Any damage type besides stun is in the exact same boat as you, so Pikemen with Kinetic and Electricity are not better off than a TKM. The only professions that get stun are riflemen, fencer, and pistoleer with a looted weapon.


I would hardly call Powerboost overrated either. I use it all of the time, it adds 550 to all pools, the most important being to the mind pool. That's a huge benefit, not to mention being able to heal wounds and poisons/disease.


FOW is not that great I'll give you that, it usually only saves me when a NS is slowly walking over to kill me, but it can be a surpriser in PvP as well.








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UWSkeletor
Sun Apr 18, 2004 9:33 am
#12



PyscoJuggalo wrote:


UWSkeletor wrote:


Jenky wrote:
I play a TKA Pikeman myself... Strange that people are keep going past the fact that TKA does, only do Kintic damage(oh for the love of god with the Razor VK discussion... Heat is almost as useless)... 80% Resist compsite, and everyone got the defenses they need..... Strange that TKA unlike the othher standard combat classes(Rilfeman, Pistoleer, Fencer, 2H Swordsman, Pikeman, carbineer) Does not have ANY kind of dodge, counterattack or block... Instead they get a little overrated skill called Power boost, and people are talking like it's a buff.. Very short effect, and always dry off in a duel(in my experience)
Your talking like the FoW skill always works, with it's impressive 1 Hour timer:/
It all really sums up to that, if 2H swordsman can defend themselfs long enouge, noone is safe, their defenses is their only problem, and Fencer is the best tank thx to their best defensses and all their dodge, which makes them hard to hit... and Pikeman....
I think Pikeman needs allot of love, but not by nerfing other brawler classes like TKA.
It should be noted though that im not even novice Pikeman yet, so my experience with this class might change though... Last time i was a pike, was back at launch!
-Jenky


Well, there's a couple of things that you've forgotten as well. TKA's get much better toughness, which allows you to tank better because you take less damage. You also have enough speed to hit the cap easily. Only having kinetic damage is not that much of a limiting factor in PvP. Any damage type besides stun is in the exact same boat as you, so Pikemen with Kinetic and Electricity are not better off than a TKM. The only professions that get stun are riflemen, fencer, and pistoleer with a looted weapon.

I would hardly call Powerboost overrated either. I use it all of the time, it adds 550 to all pools, the most important being to the mind pool. That's a huge benefit, not to mention being able to heal wounds and poisons/disease.

FOW is not that great I'll give you that, it usually only saves me when a NS is slowly walking over to kill me, but it can be a surpriser in PvP as well.




Pistoleers get stun with a Regular weapon it just sucks-Tangle Pistol





good call, forgot about that, now what are you doing away from the rifleman forums psyco?



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asgoia
Sun Apr 18, 2004 9:37 am
#13

I'm not for nerfing anything Tka is a nicer power I just wish they'd appreciate what they have instead of getting posts like OMFG THIS ISN"T FAIR when they kill almost every thing. Whats not fair is pikeman having no definition as anything in melee.



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