Musician Archive

1. The 15 second thing is a complete killer for my band and driving me up the wall. Otherwise I don't quite get what you mean. To achieve a solo effect what we tend to do is this:

/g Mando 8 flo solo

The mando then does a /spot and starts their solo with emotes and lights.

Everyone else except Ommni/Bandfill then plays the base tick for 2 flos then /pausem for 4 flos, joins in again on the last 2 flos then back into whatever we are doing. THe ommni/bandfill maintains base flos during the solo.

Am I misunderstanding what you mean?

2. Agree. This would greatly enhance performance and patron relations if you weren't routed to the spot.

3. Personally I think this would be a really bad thing (aside from the copyright infringement law possibilities, it just won't happen as they could be landed with a lawsuit if someone copied a rl song and 'performed' it to an audience in game). Not everyone who plays a musician is a musician in RL and the current interface allows them to have some fun 'composing'. I remember many discussions on this topic (search the forums if you want to read them over) about having two music interfaces, one for those who just want to play with flourishes and a more advanced one so that we can compose and then sell our song schematics, recordings, etc.

4. Agree.

5. Yes, this would be nice certainly, but I'd rather less time was spent on art work and more on other issues so it isn't high up on my agenda.

6. Agree. As an addendum I remember awhile back someone having the idea of crafting an instrument case as well so that you could sell sets of instruments with your brand / colour scheme.

"(aside from the copyright infringement law possibilities, it just won't happen as they could be landed with a lawsuit if someone copied a rl song and 'performed' it to an audience in game)."

I highly doubt this would be the case. However, what I had in mind is like a very general music composing scheme, very much like diving up the flourishes into parts. Instead of having a flo take up an entire bar of music, divide the flos up into parts making like 16 or so flos. Then, using some sort of click and drag interface, you can rearange those new parts, allowing for much greater flexibility.

Psylion, if that's all have you in mind for composition, I agree that copyright concerns shouldn't be a factor.

But any ability to create brand-new music -- new melodies, for example -- would be very tough to get past the suits at LucasArts and Sony. Public performance of a copyrighted work is infringement, and playing "Hey Jude" on the slitherhorn in crowded Theed cantina would probably be a public performance. Yes, even a chat system creates the possibility for infringement: I could, in theory, type all of the latest "Harry Potter" novel into /say. But that possibility is much more remote than the virtual certainty of infringement that would result from a system that allowed people to cover other tunes. Sony and LucasArts are both major holders of copyrights; they're not about to do anything to undermine them.

It's Sony, they're the people who would be doing the suing, so they're the last ones to make it remotely possible.

I like the thing with more flexibility with the flos.And if an Ommni Box acted like the description for a real Ommni Box, not just some drum kit, a thing that affected the tonal qualities of the band.Somebody just needs to steal the idea of musicians and implement it better in a new game, all from scratch. I fear instead of making the flos better, making sounds for all the instruments instead of repeats, they'll just add new songs.

As for walking while playing... can anybody think of a reason why the devs require entertainers to stand still? Let's say someone figured out an exploit to allow musicians to run around and continue playing, imagine how they'd be paranoid the devs would "fix" this. Why do we have to stand still?

1. It is their servers it is held on and they are effectively providing you with the means to infringe the copyright in the first place.


2. When it comes to copyright infringments companies are targetted over individuals because theoretically they have the money to pay up either with a huge settlement of face long court proceedings which would also cost a lot of money.

In terms of the system you are talking about Darniaq talked about such a thing a while back... *goes to find the post*

• Darniaq on Customisable Sheet Music System


• Darniaq on Realtime Music Creation (version 0.1)


• Whilst at it... something else that went a step further than my band technique - Band Conductor micro-management.

There are lots of great ideas in the depths, just trying to remember who posted what

Message Edited by Kyorlana on 05-26-2004 09:39 PM

so u know a bit about the beatles do u ? ......

I don't see how that would be SOE's fault if a Player uses a MIDI compoistion software such as Noteworthy and creates a piece of music, then plays it in game, how it could be illegal. It's player made, player driven. If this same theology was used everywhere, you as well as I do know the previous "Beatles" on Chilastra. Why wasn't SOE sued for having the Beatles playing music in Theed?

Performers have the right to "fair use". Among other things, fair use grants performers the ability to cover songs for the purposes of public performances. It would be interesting if that could be used to defend musicians in Star Wars Galaxies. I mean, cyberspace musicians should have fair use rights too. C'mon SOE don't let the RIAA push you around.