Musician Archive
Thread: Buffing in the CANTINA ONLY SUCKS
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=dancer&message.id=19482
Well, given that you can buff in camps, and that you can buff in player houses, guildhalls, player cantinas, and city cantinas, isn't that a pretty wide range of places in which one can buff? As for buffing in a city, isn't the idea that people are supposed to congregate in cantinas to hear music and watch dance, as they do in the Star Wars movies?
That points also applies to battle fatigue. I personally don't want the ability to heal fatigue in the field. That eliminates any need for anyone to come see me at a cantina. If I want to go out and run around with a group in the field, I pick up my carbine and fight. (Yes, Master Musician and near-master carbineer.)
Now, it's true that cantinas need to be more interesting. Part of the problem, of course, is that they are plagued with AFKers these days. That itself makes cantinas less interesting than they used to be. Time was, after launch, they really did work as social centers. Some fighters would go AFK while /listening, sure, but many others hung around and shmoozed with us. I remember having an enthuasiastic crowd in a small cantina on Naboo while I performed Virtuoso for the first time. Maybe it's too late to recapture that feeling. I dunno. But if players had more interesting things to do in cantinas, then fewer would be AFK, and thecantinas might again be more like social centers. I'd like to see gambling, "darts," and other mini-games in cantinas. That would keep more fighters at the keyboard.
To keep *us* at the keyboard, I think ultimately our professions need more goals and challenges. If I were redesigning the system, I'd make playing in a band as challenging as fighting a mob in a group. But since that's probably not going to happen, at least I'd seek a more flexible flourish system, more interactive gig missions, static quests that require us to visit a long string of different cantinas, fame, a "Musician of the Week" statue in Coronet plaza, Grandmastery in dance or music, and other post-Master goals.
NewJedi wrote:
Well, given that you can buff in camps, and that you can buff in player houses, guildhalls, player cantinas, and city cantinas, isn't that a pretty wide range of places in which one can buff? As for buffing in a city, isn't the idea that people are supposed to congregate in cantinas to hear music and watch dance, as they do in the Star Wars movies?
That points also applies to battle fatigue. I personally don't want the ability to heal fatigue in the field. That eliminates any need for anyone to come see me at a cantina. If I want to go out and run around with a group in the field, I pick up my carbine and fight. (Yes, Master Musician and near-master carbineer.)
Now, it's true that cantinas need to be more interesting. Part of the problem, of course, is that they are plagued with AFKers these days. That itself makes cantinas less interesting than they used to be. Time was, after launch, they really did work as social centers. Some fighters would go AFK while /listening, sure, but many others hung around and shmoozed with us. I remember having an enthuasiastic crowd in a small cantina on Naboo while I performed Virtuoso for the first time. Maybe it's too late to recapture that feeling. I dunno. But if players had more interesting things to do in cantinas, then fewer would be AFK, and thecantinas might again be more like social centers. I'd like to see gambling, "darts," and other mini-games in cantinas. That would keep more fighters at the keyboard.
To keep *us* at the keyboard, I think ultimately our professions need more goals and challenges. If I were redesigning the system, I'd make playing in a band as challenging as fighting a mob in a group. But since that's probably not going to happen, at least I'd seek a more flexible flourish system, more interactive gig missions, static quests that require us to visit a long string of different cantinas, fame, a "Musician of the Week" statue in Coronet plaza, Grandmastery in dance or music, and other post-Master goals.
You should have been in bestine for the first 2-3 months on Ahazi. God it rocked!
I miss those days 
Bossov wrote:
Agreed. Someone who wants to just buff anywhere, at any time isn't looking at things in context. The devs have stated that they put entertainers in the game because they were such a big part of the movies. Cantinas were social hubs and hot spots in the movies. Take that away and noone will go to cantinas. If we havedroids to buff and heal, the afk'ers will just move to the starports with all the afk merchant barkers and further lag things up there. Entertainers are the social classes of this game, not anywhere/anytime buff bots. The devs will hopefully work on giving us other things to do as entertainers, add more variety and content to cantinas, etc. But allowing us to buff anywhere will be the crippling blow to our already wounded professions.