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Thread: I go brawling, and, surprisingly ...

NewJedi
Tue Sep 23, 2003 7:59 am
#1

... I win. My main is a Master Musician, Master Entertainer, Novice Carbineer -- with no Novice Brawler skills, no unarmed skill, none of that. I dueled a friend; we both wore street clothes, no armor. My friend has at least Novice Brawler and I'm not sure what else; she kept hitting me with all these unarmed-attack moves. I just swung. Yet somehow I seemed to be winning; her health went down much further than mine before we had to call it quits.


Is this because of the Master Musician's bonus to melee defense of +7? My total melee defense is +9, I think; I'm not sure where the extra +2 is coming from. Does it make that big a difference?

Blackrock
Tue Sep 23, 2003 8:11 am
#2

It makes a difference. A good bit actually


I've also dueled and we are hard to hit.


We are sleepers cause noone thinks entertainers are anything combat wise.


I know a ME 1h swordsman that is amazing. I've seen him duel with standard no bleed no knockdown rules win repeatedly Once to a NBH.


I'm a shooter and I sidestep attacks a ton if I'm close and not kiting.



I'm curious did she lunge>dizzy you at all. Did she Zerk?


Straight up duel with your defense wasnt very fair you big bully






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Darniaq
Tue Sep 23, 2003 8:11 am
#3


As a Novice Carbineer, you have amassed enough skills along the way to also have trained Ranged Weapon Support. If you trained that line at all, you get +2 Melee Defense at "Advanced Ranged Weapon Support Abilities" (Ranged II).




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kaid23
Tue Sep 23, 2003 8:18 am
#4

Well the fact that they were swinging at you with all the special moves is probably why you won to be honest. Also alot of it has to do with the regen stats as a dancer your regen stats are probably pretty good.

Basically most of the novice unarmed skills take a great deal of ham to use and are questionable use vs players. Intimidate, and the roar do not seem to have much effect on players. The unarmed 1 attack does almost as much ham damage to the attacker as it does to its target. If they have jab and are using that they are doing MORE damage to themselves than they are doing to you. berzerk allows for an extra 75 damage I think on a hit but it fails often and eats away their health when it fails to go off.

If they would have just used a couple of these skills the fight probably would have gone the other way but if they were really mashing them it is pretty easy to see that they would lose.


Kaid
NewJedi
Tue Sep 23, 2003 10:45 am
#5

She did use berzerk at least a couple of times, and you're right, that hurt her more than me. Actually, at first she seemed to have a slight advantage, but the longer the fight went on, the more things went my way. And yes, I do have Ranged Support II, so that (together with Master Musician) explains my +9 to melee defense. As for regeneration, I know I've pumped stat points into mysecondary action stats, butI was surprised that I was beating her not only on action points but also on health -- an area in which my Musician ain't thebest.


Anyway, I was surprised how fun it was. And stillsurprised that I won. I fully expected to be beaten into a pulp. It was her idea, not mine!

TheClockmaker
Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:26 pm
#6

Figure it this way.... the average SWG musicians hang out in bars constantly.



Imagine how many good old fashioned barfights they probably ought to have had by Master Musician!



*grabs the annoying pugnacious guy next to him, punches him in the face, and throws him sliding down the bar - drinks go flying everywhere!*



Sefen Vyngaard - Starsider




Sefen Vyngaard - Starsider
SinnAsyr
Tue Sep 23, 2003 2:39 pm
#7






TheClockmaker wrote:

Figure it this way.... the average SWG musicians hang out in bars constantly.



Imagine how many good old fashioned barfights they probably ought to have had by Master Musician!



*grabs the annoying pugnacious guy next to him, punches him in the face, and throws him sliding down the bar - drinks go flying everywhere!*



Sefen Vyngaard - Starsider







lol, that would be a good party, no heals, no weapons, last standing win


also no special moves




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Entertainer-Ahazi
Guardian
Wed Sep 24, 2003 7:29 am
#8

The defense bonus probably had a minor effect. More likely it was unarmed attacks draining her HAM and you had higher strength/constitution than her. In little bar fights where neither fighter can do much damage whomever can hold out longer determines who wins.



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