CUEmu - Thread Posts

Emerson

Wed Mar 10, 2004 5:37 am

I just had a cool little idea that might make this profession much more cool to play as. If you look around this game, there is so much customization... different colored cloths, armor, values, faces etc.... I think musicians should be able to write their own songs... let me explain...

Maybe one skill tree should be composotions.... and you "craft" sheet music. You start with the ability to write for only one instroment, and then as you move up the skill tree, you start tomake music for 3 or 4 instroments (parts) at a time. Make the interface really easy to understand, like a little one octive keyboard that you click on. You could then "craft" your sheet music and sell it to PA groups for their theme song, you could put it in a music playing device inside houses... maybe a radio station? the possiblies are endless. It would be pretty cool, and allow people to be very creative. It probably sounds really hard to impliment, but it could just be like a really really simplified midi type thing where there are a few set sounds and you just arrange them in sequence, almost like a mini game that gives you xp.

Anyway throw out some other ideas, I just thought this would be a cool thing to do.

Serivex

Wed Mar 10, 2004 10:41 am

#2

This would be a great idea....

Allow musicians tocompose unique songs that give enhancements... much like the new chef items do. The more people that are playingthe songtogether, the better the result. Allow them to stack with other enhancements so no other profession feels like they are being robbed. For example, a group playing a "battle hymn" in a cantina would give the targeted group/person increased knockdown resistance... or something similar. Allow the composers to sell their works to other musicians so they have another way to make money.. maybe even give the composer experience of some kind each time that song is started in a cantina? Dancerscould also benefit from this change...heh.. I could probably go on and on...

This is probably all wishful thinking, but it would DEFINATLY make the musician profession MUCH more interesting to play.

Jheric Solborne

NewJedi

Wed Mar 10, 2004 4:15 pm

#3

I love this kind of idea. I do. But I've mentioned related proposals to the devs repeatedly, and I don't think it will happen.

The devs apparently lobbied hard for some music-creation ability and lost. Evidently, the obstacle is copyright. If SOE permits people to upload their own compositions, inevitably some percentage of players will upload "cover versions" of copyrighted works. Unfortunately, a "public performance" of a song owned by someone else is copyright infringement. In theory, one could police this by establishing hundreds of ombudsmen to police uploaded tunes, but that would be expensive and still wouldn't catch everything. The reality is that a major copyright holder like Sony (or LucasArts)is not likely to make it easy for us to infringe on copyrights.

Yes, in theory we can already infringe "Harry Potter" by typing the entire text into /say. But a music-creation tool would be much more likely to be used to violate copyrights.

Emerson

Thu Mar 11, 2004 6:42 pm

#4

I guess your probably right, but I still have to wonder about a few things. If somone creates a song that has a copyright, what are the legalities of that? Would Paul McArtney be able to sue Sony because a rough version of one of his songs was being played in an online starwars game, with some really cheezy sounding instroments? Maybe he would... I would be interested to find this out. But think about midi files... there are a ton of them on the internet, and I don't believe anyone has ever been in trouble for swapping them around... is this because no one cares? or becuase it sounds so different from the original that they can not take legal action? I think this happens with certain Nokia cell phones, where people write well known songs as rings, and then anyone can download them... I highly doubt that anyone in the RIA would ever look in a star wars game to see if it breached copywright.

oh well... at least they have thought about it already, its just too bad that the legalities

JohnMarble

Thu Mar 11, 2004 7:52 pm

#5

They're Sony, they're the ones who would be doing the suing, except it's their own game. Thus, they won't allow it.

I still think it's possible to have some form of music composition, perhaps more limited in nature. Just taking song templates and being able to customize them a lot more with effects, pacing, etc. That's what had hoped when I heard about this profession initially. There's too little you can really do with the songs, and they get old real quick.

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