Musician Archive

• Nargalon and Ommni Box need to be playable without being targeted. So much is lost for the player at those instruments. We need to be able to target other players and see what their HAM bars show. Chatting becomes a chore when there are so many names in the air you can't tell who is who, or when you have the names turned off and you need to hover the player to get a name. Too much can go wrong with mouse buttons to ruin your playing.


• You should not be able to walk while playing (just like not being able to sit during combat). Again, too much happens with the mouse (or the arrow keys when trying it edit a chat typo) that you end up messing up your music.


• Groups need to be able to vote for a band leader to change the leader in case of idiocy, LD, or AFKness. Too many times a group has had to disband and reform because a leader went missing.


• Only the band leader should be able to /changemusic or perform band functions. Get rid of /bandflourish altogether. To often you get someone in a group that causes hell for everyone or in many cases someone wants to stop playing and stops everyone.


• Entertainer buffs need to be visible. The person giving the buff has no idea how long it will take to be fully effective, what the final result was, or who is even listening/watching thus being eligible to receive a buff.


• Entertainer messages should not be System Messages. They should be a different class of messages like Combat messages. The flood of messages is unbearable causing people to remove System Messages from the Spacial chat tab. This unfortunately, removes real system messages from spacial.


• There should be song combinations that will work together. So a master can play a high level song and a novice can play a low level song in the same group, but the songs will not sound ugly together. This already is the case with Folk and about any other song. Sometimes it is even really pleasant.


• It would be nice if /setperform didn't respond with "You direct your attention toward %TT"


• Is there a reason to have a theatre in the game other than a place to put trainers? Add some incentive to perform ina theatre... like only bands of 10 or more can play there and they get an XP bonus or get paid by the game system for playing a long time or based on the number of people in the audience (a cut of ticket sales).


• Some music variety would be nice. Even if players could just choose which octave to play in. That way you could have bass and alto instruments without a lot of game overhead. If the game could support it, custom music would be great for those few real-life composers we have playing the game.

That is the bulk of it. It has been fun but some of these could have made it a much better time.

1. While it used to be annoying I don't mind it anymore - it makes it unique - besides if your looking for the omni sound play a bandfill.

2. Except for a glitch you can only play for a few steps - yes there are ways to forcefully do it by taking advantage of a bug - I think they should give us the ability to make marching bands.

3. I don't beleive it and never will - mostly because I'm the leader that kicks AFKers and won't invite them - so I owuld always be voted out. Even when I'm not a leader, if you have enough people to vote you have enough people to disband and reform. It only takes a few seconds.

4. NEVER get rid of bandflourish, you obvisouly do not perform an shows or routine. I also don't think changeband needs to be changed, but for only the leader to do it woudln't be a bad thing.

5. Agree

6. Even my alt can't stand system message in spatial - beyond that I haven't seen any ent xp since I capped in august, so this doesn't bother me at all.

7. Noep don't agree - a musician can play their highest intrument and they should receive the same xp with the lowest song as well as the highest.

8. Once again - you seem to never put on or arrange any shows.

9. Agree, but it will never happen, we will get a few new songs over time but that's about it, they won't allow us to actually compose music do to copyright issues.

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MisterCode wrote:

Only the band leader should be able to /changemusic or perform band functions. Get rid of /bandflourish altogether. To often you get someone in a group that causes hell for everyone or in many cases someone wants to stop playing and stops everyone.

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Message Edited by kirah_ashlin on 07-06-2004 01:44 PM

Another thing is if only the leader can bandflo, then there may be a poor little droid who doesn't get to flourish. Otherwise quite independent, those little guys cannot really jam unless given specific cues by someone. And who's going to argue that the best person to give these cues to the droid isn't the droid's own master?
-Scipionus Mentus, Tempest

Congrats on mastering musician MisterCode!

I must confess I am surprised that, as a Master Musician, you haven't taken some more time to experiment with bandflourishes, and entertainment droids. But if you were generally in big cantina groups (as opposed to putting on shows), they were probably less attractive.

I also recently had the chance to learn all about droid flourishes. Have a look at the following thread: http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=musician&message.id=15788

It mentions how your bandflourishes can be targetted at specific instruments and, thus, at your droid only (or a subset of a band).

Happy entertaining
Wendelius
aka Ka'neka, Master Entertainer / Novice Musician on Chilastra.

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MisterCode wrote:

Thanks for the input. I purchased an entertainment droid, but have not used it,I didn't know/bandflo affected them. It was my impression that droids were programmedwith acommand list. Also, don't dancers and musicians all respond to the /bandflo command regardless of what profession is bandleader? No, bandflo commands for musicians and dancers are completely separate. Musicians can bandflo their little fingers off and it won't have any effect on the dancers whatsoever - and vis versa.

The main thing I have run into on my way up the skill tree is people getting very upset with /bandflo. They don't want you controlling their character. Especially when they have timed a macro to do flourishes so they can chat. You start burning their Action points and they get mad. There are two options for this. First is that common courtesy dictates that you don't jump into a group andstart bandfloing without a concensus from theothers that they want to bandflo and second, if you don't want to bandflo and the majority do, you can turn off your bandflo - the command is /bandflourishoff if I'm not mistaken.

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