Musician Archive
Thread: Buff and heal times cut in half by the devs? So double the fatigue!
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Darter
Tue Feb 15, 2005 11:15 am
#1
I'm currently in the process of remastering Musician as a combination of something to break of the tedium of combat as giving me an alternate output of XP to convert to FS XP once Phase III rolls back around. One thing I noticed in the last patch was that the time to heal has been drastically reduced, which I can imagine is a point of contention for Entertainers, Musicians, and Dancers. After all, the faster buffs do mean that we can buff more people in a faster amount of time, but it also means people are spending less time in the cantinas getting healed. Cuts down on the some of the social aspects of the games, from the opinion of a retired Master Musician, and even though we may not strike up a conversation with every patron who wanders into our cantina, the endless sea of faces is about to get more endless.
Maybe someone's thought about this already, but maybe as a counter to this we could ask that the devs increase the battle fatigue and mind wounds being done to characters. As a TKA, I can go out into the field and easily earn 600k unarmed XP on a single buff session, and yes, I'll have to visit the cantina when I'm done (I had a 400+ BF the other day after a 3-hour buff), but if the amount of BF I obtain were higher, I would be forced to visit the cantina sooner, particularly to counter mind wounds so I'm not just wasting my precious brandy and ahrisa. That would cut down on the time people spend in the cantina, but it would also raise the average number of visits by every combat class.
Interesting? Already suggested? Not practical?
Maybe someone's thought about this already, but maybe as a counter to this we could ask that the devs increase the battle fatigue and mind wounds being done to characters. As a TKA, I can go out into the field and easily earn 600k unarmed XP on a single buff session, and yes, I'll have to visit the cantina when I'm done (I had a 400+ BF the other day after a 3-hour buff), but if the amount of BF I obtain were higher, I would be forced to visit the cantina sooner, particularly to counter mind wounds so I'm not just wasting my precious brandy and ahrisa. That would cut down on the time people spend in the cantina, but it would also raise the average number of visits by every combat class.
Interesting? Already suggested? Not practical?
jopenack
Tue Feb 15, 2005 11:56 am
#2
maybe its just me but i was music buffing a guy the other day and as a master musician playing virtuoso and flourishing every 3 seconds it still took 3 minutes for a full buff, the person was kind enough to let me experiment on him and would logout then back after a few min to clear the old buff.
no flourishes in 2 min buff sessionresulted in 1.5 hrs
flourishes every 5 seconds in 2 min sessionresulted in 1.45hrs
flourishes at the 4 second mark seemed to be fine although i lowered them to 3 seconds just to be sure lol
I understood the flourishes stack and would go every four seconds so it made sense to me.
end results are I am using the same amount of time for a full music buff as I did prior to the patch.
maybe i'm doing something wrong lol
As far as emmersion goes it seems the people who wish to chatt will do so no matter what they have planned those people in a hurry for a buff and run right after dont usually say much anyways lol
Raising the bf wouldn't be a good thing from where i am sitting it just makes people who dont want to talk wait longer and why anger them lol
Message Edited by jopenack on 02-15-2005 01:59 PM
jopenack
Tue Feb 15, 2005 2:11 pm
#3
cool thank you
seems it must be stacking 5 flourishes every eight seconds that makes the difference
i'l try it tonight hopefully
thanks again
/bow
Maisland
Tue Feb 15, 2005 2:33 pm
#4
I always have to take a swig of Accarragm (or already be under the influence) before running this macro because it burns the action like crazy. I tell my customers that I am going into Turbo Mode when I run it. 
Maisland
Wed Feb 16, 2005 1:48 am
#5
jopenack wrote:
maybe its just me but i was music buffing a guy the other day and as a master musician playing virtuoso and flourishing every 3 seconds it still took 3 minutes for a full buff, the person was kind enough to let me experiment on him and would logout then back after a few min to clear the old buff.
I'm using the same buff macro I used before... I use a customized NON-recursive macro... before they shortened buff times, I had to run it 4 times. Now I only have to run it twice to get the full 2 hour buff.
This is the macro I use:
/Flo 2;
/Flo 1;
/Flo 1;
/Flo 1;
/Flo 1;
/pause 8;
/Flo 2;
/Flo 1;
/Flo 1;
/Flo 1;
/Flo 1;
/pause 8;
/Flo 2;
/Flo 1;
/Flo 1;
/Flo 1;
/Flo 1;
/pause 8;
/Flo 2;
/Flo 1;
/Flo 1;
/Flo 1;
/Flo 1;
/pause 8;
/Flo 2;
/Flo 1;
/Flo 1;
/Flo 1;
/Flo 1;
/pause 8;
/Flo 2;
/Flo 1;
/Flo 1;
/Flo 1;
/Flo 1;
/pause 8;
/daz 2;
/echo Restart Macro;
Both the /daz 2 and the /echo lines are clues to me so I know when to restart my macro.
Bronski113
Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:35 am
#6
How many sets of five do you need for the full buff in 1 minute and 30 seoconds? I do five flo's then pause for 7 seconds. I'm trying to make my macro completely un recursive.
Fragpuppie
Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:49 am
#7
IN THEORY....
If times were cut exactly in half then all you need is 60 flos or ticks. Therefore if you can cram 51 flos into 90 seconds (9 ticks) then your buff should be good.
I still need to test the "Newly Revised Patent Pending Fragpuppie Uber 1:35 Quickbuff".
I'll post results when I get em.
Fragpuppie Uber
Master Entertainer, Master Musician
Founding Member - Frag's Puppies
President and CEO - Fragpuppie Enterprises and Uber Instruments
Coronet, Corellia, Chilastra
Master Entertainer, Master Musician
Founding Member - Frag's Puppies
President and CEO - Fragpuppie Enterprises and Uber Instruments
Coronet, Corellia, Chilastra
Maisland
Wed Feb 16, 2005 2:14 pm
#8
Bronski113 wrote:
How many sets of five do you need for the full buff in 1 minute and 30 seoconds? I do five flo's then pause for 7 seconds. I'm trying to make my macro completely un recursive.
My macro is about the longest I have been able to make without having anything cut off. I suppose you could just delete the dazzle and the echo lines and double the others and just run that.
You need to use pause 8 though because any less and some of the flourishes won't get done.
Aleyo
Wed Feb 16, 2005 5:13 pm
#9
BTW, from today's TC notes:
Tiggs wrote:Muscian / Entertainer / Dancer
- Entertainer mind wound healing has been toned down. There is still a twice as much gain in experience for healing mind wounds than there was prior to Publish 13.0.
bawler14
Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:18 pm
#10
Okay, if you don't mind your patrons ears, using a lower lvl instrument, ideally a slitherhorn, or playing a lower lvl song, StarWars1 sounds great with a mandovial, can reduce you action cost considerably. The higher the instrument and song combo, the greater the action cost.
Maisland
Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:43 pm
#11
I like to use Western to give buffs myself.
bawler14 wrote:
Okay, if you don't mind your patrons ears, using a lower lvl instrument, ideally a slitherhorn, or playing a lower lvl song, StarWars1 sounds great with a mandovial, can reduce you action cost considerably. The higher the instrument and song combo, the greater the action cost.
LyteFoot
Thu Feb 17, 2005 8:11 am
#12
I recently wrote a blues song for starwars3 (the bluesiest of our music IMO). It got me thinking that I am going to write a two minute song that uses buff quantity flos for the music. This way the person being buffed will be busy reading the words of the song and not realize the time has passed 
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