Musician Archive
Thread: total revamp?
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GanymedePharuu
Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:22 am
#1
i had a cool idea for entertainers. (yes i played as a musician for a while, and my current main is master ID)
if we're in the total revamping mood, as the devs seem to be, they should revamp the musician and dancer professions.
the way the current system is set up makes for rather static performances. even the most talented and creative musicians and dancers are so limited to the set songs and dances. the only thing they can work with is flourishes, of which there are a limited number.
what i propose is a more dynamic customizable system for CREATING songs and dances.
it could be a mini-game that the musician or dancer would sit down and work out a piece, then save that piece for future performances.
i dunno how the coding for something like that would work, but i'm sure there could be some kind of system worked out.
for instance: a musician can choose the time signature, key, and even notes of a song. or if not each individual note then they could pick from a list of note patterns which they can sequence together in any order. and each note pattern would be set so that every instrument automatically played its own piece of the song (so that a musician wouldn't have to work out the song for every type of instrument in his/her band)
and a dancer would choose from a list of different moves that they can sequence in any order. and maybe dancers could get special "stage effects" when they're performing (the currentdroid effects are alright, but there should be more options).
these lists of note patterns and dance moves would be similar but much more extensive than the current flourishes.
also they'd be much shorter than the flourishes so they can be sequenced together for a more customized song or dance.
instead of musicians and dancers learning new songs and dances as they progress up their skills, they would learn new time signatures, note patterns, and dance moves. also they would be able toknow (save)more dances in theirrepetiore.
maybea novice musician/dancer, at any time,could onlyhave up to3 songs/dances, while a master could know up to 8.
maybe they would save them to datapads or something similarand be able to upload them to other players so they could form a band or dance troupe.
i think with a system like thisyou'd see some real creativity from the only profession in the game that has anything to do with the creative arts. imagine the shows a band full of master musicians could put on, and the dancing that would accompany them!
would anyone else like to see a drastic change like this for the sake of creativity?
if we're in the total revamping mood, as the devs seem to be, they should revamp the musician and dancer professions.
the way the current system is set up makes for rather static performances. even the most talented and creative musicians and dancers are so limited to the set songs and dances. the only thing they can work with is flourishes, of which there are a limited number.
what i propose is a more dynamic customizable system for CREATING songs and dances.
it could be a mini-game that the musician or dancer would sit down and work out a piece, then save that piece for future performances.
i dunno how the coding for something like that would work, but i'm sure there could be some kind of system worked out.
for instance: a musician can choose the time signature, key, and even notes of a song. or if not each individual note then they could pick from a list of note patterns which they can sequence together in any order. and each note pattern would be set so that every instrument automatically played its own piece of the song (so that a musician wouldn't have to work out the song for every type of instrument in his/her band)
and a dancer would choose from a list of different moves that they can sequence in any order. and maybe dancers could get special "stage effects" when they're performing (the currentdroid effects are alright, but there should be more options).
these lists of note patterns and dance moves would be similar but much more extensive than the current flourishes.
also they'd be much shorter than the flourishes so they can be sequenced together for a more customized song or dance.
instead of musicians and dancers learning new songs and dances as they progress up their skills, they would learn new time signatures, note patterns, and dance moves. also they would be able toknow (save)more dances in theirrepetiore.
maybea novice musician/dancer, at any time,could onlyhave up to3 songs/dances, while a master could know up to 8.
maybe they would save them to datapads or something similarand be able to upload them to other players so they could form a band or dance troupe.
i think with a system like thisyou'd see some real creativity from the only profession in the game that has anything to do with the creative arts. imagine the shows a band full of master musicians could put on, and the dancing that would accompany them!
would anyone else like to see a drastic change like this for the sake of creativity?
sweatyclimber
Wed Apr 06, 2005 5:47 pm
#2
i'd love a total revamp but doubt it'd happen so...
on musician i would simply like the ability to have more band controls such as X instrament play nothing for x mesure while the others flourish and double the flourish amount... that would be a great addition
GanymedePharuu
Wed Apr 06, 2005 9:44 pm
#3
sweatyclimber wrote:
i'd love a total revamp but doubt it'd happen so...
on musician i would simply like the ability to have more band controls such as X instrament play nothing for x mesure while the others flourish and double the flourish amount... that would be a great addition
never say never! 
us smugglers (my true calling in this game) waited forever, and now they've posted the ideas for a revamp worthy of a Star Wars game.
i have a feeling once the dust from theCU is settled, they'll be kicking improvements of other areas of the game into high gear.
2 expansions in 6 months is enough to show that they've doubled their efforts.
NeillM
Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:25 am
#4
I have recently been thinking that it may be good to move all the song/instruments to the direct Musician line, and all Dances into the direct Dancer line.
To compensate Master Ent for the loss of the songs/dances I envisenge Master Ent being the "Squad Leader" for Entertainers. This could mean that Master Ents are the people who get the use of the /band commands (or get some new more interesting band commands such as the ones described above). It would also be nice if they could "help" lower level players to perform "above themselves" while the Master Ent is the group leader (i.e. a Master Ent group leader would allow people with Ent in their group to perform at a maximum of 2 boxes higher than they are certifed for, although I guess XP gain should not be allowed to increase, to a maximum of a tier 4 Ent box.) This would mean that a Master Ent lead group could have a greater variaty of performance options even when there is a Novice in the group (i.e. we can stop the whole ear bleeding SW1 in the grinding groups)
I know that if this was to happen I would still keep Master Entertainer for when a Novice was about so they could get a taste of the good songs, but it would not be necesary for us to have Master Ent to be able to play every song/insturment or for dancers to be able to dance everything. It may also make Master Ent more attractive to dancers than it currently is.
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