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Thread: How often should I do flourishes for XP ??

Blakal
Thu Jul 24, 2003 6:42 am
#1

I heard that for a musicianto get the maximum amount of experience, you only need to perform 2 flourishes per ten seconds. Anything more than that does nothing to your experience.


Is that true? If not, what is the maximum number of flourishes should I do to get maximum experience without wasting my action pool?


Thanks


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KoraJubali
Thu Jul 24, 2003 6:44 am
#2

that's true in my experience.



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JediMutantX3
Thu Jul 24, 2003 7:03 am
#3

Hmmm... man, they ought to make a guide for it


I have a question too, if you don't mind.


How much More XP you gain by grouping up?


And, when another new musician joins the group, does that add More xp?




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JediMutantX3
Thu Jul 24, 2003 7:14 am
#4

And when someone in the band uses Naglaron (Anyone, doesn't have to be the leader) We get a lot more XP I noticed?


What's the formula?




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BuccoRoth
Thu Jul 24, 2003 7:15 am
#5




How much More XP you gain by grouping up?



I'm not sure how much exactly... but I'm sure that you will get the more xp, more menber join your group.






And, when another new musician joins the group, does that add More xp?



At least, new musician or dancer start performing (flourishes are not required), your xp will raise. I do not remember if it goes up only when joining..


Anyway it is very good idea to group up for every entertainers for xp and jam! =)







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Spatzimaus
Thu Jul 24, 2003 7:16 am
#6

It's not that simple. Here's the basics:

1> A Musician flourish lasts 5 seconds, so even though you can hit the key twice in succession, it'll still take 10 seconds to actually play the notes.
2> When determining XP, it only matters when you hit the key or when the macro sent the command, NOT when it was actually played.
3> The game counts in 10-second periods from when you started playing; you'll know when a tick ends because that's when you get the XP. If, within a 10-second "tick" you flourish once, it gives you X. If you flourished twice or more, you get 2X. If I hit the flourish key six times in a row, I'll still only get 2X, but it'll take 30 seconds to play and will drain the full Action.
So, as a Musician you should always have either 0 or 2 flourishes within a given tick, never any other numbers.
4> Every tick that had zero flourishes drops ~10% off of the XP gain of the previous one.
5> When playing, you use (A) action points per tick, plus (A/2) for each flourish you did. The exact value of A depends on which song, which instrument, your Quickness stat, and so on.
6> Dancers flourishes basically count as two Musician flourishes, taking double the Action points and twice as long, but giving the 2X experience. You don't care about that, though.

To get the most XP in a short period, you need to do 2 flourishes per 10-second tick. For max XP you would flourish every tick, but this'll be very exhausting, so you'll have to stop and rest, which can really hurt your XP rate in the long run.

But, you don't NEED to flourish every tick, and if you're practicing without a dedicated healer it's better not to. For example, my practice script is:
/flo 1; /pause 2; /flo 2; /pause 28;
(repeat ad nauseum)
Let's say I get 20 per tick (because solo, I do.) Flourishing nonstop would give 20-20-20-repeat, with a huge Action drain. But doing it my way gives something like 20-19-17-repeat; 93.3% as much XP, for only 2/3 the Action cost. 2/3 Action may not sound like much, but it drops it to right at my regeneration level, so I can keep it up indefinitely.
Arashiko
Mon Jul 28, 2003 7:06 am
#7

i've found that a double flourish every 30 seconds gives almost the same xp as every 10 seconds, with 3X the amount of time before I run out of action. Seems like the sweet spot so far.


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Kronx
Mon Jul 28, 2003 8:01 am
#8

Here's something I posted earlier on this board.


If you're in a cantina and someone is healing you, double flourishing every tick will do it.


When you play, if you double flourish you get max XP, do nothing and you get a slightly smaller amount of XP every tick until nothing. So the question is, where is the threshold?


a - Let's take a base XP of29 a tick. I get 29 a tick at Musician Music Knowledge 2. Let's suppose I can double flourish every tick 30 times before I have to rest. (I don't know the actual number). So in 5 minutes I earn 870xp and then rest.


b - Now, if I double flourish one tick and let the base riff play two more ticks I get 29, 27, 25 and repeat. That's 810xp, but I've used 1/3 of the action bar. So I can get 2430xp for the same action cost. (Assuming there is no cost for just playing an instrument)


c - Let's extend that further. Let's let the baseriff play 5 times after a double flourish. Then I get 29, 27, 25, 23, 21 and 19 then repeat, giving me 720xp in 30 ticks, but using 1/6 of the action bar. So I can get 4320 using the same action xp.


d - One more. Let's go for 10. 29, 27, 25, 23, 21, 19, 17, 15, 13, 11. That's 600 in 30 ticks. Using 1/10 of the action. or 6000 in 50 minutes.


Now...


Assuming it takes2 minutes to regen action.


I can makec - 4320 in 30 minutes, b - 2430 in 17 minutes, or a - 870 in7 minutes, 6000 in 50 minutes.


a -7456-60 minutes (3728 in 30 minutes)


b -8576 - 60 minutes (4288 in 30 minutes)


c - 8100 -60 minutes (4320 in 30 minutes)


d -6923 - 60 minutes(3600 in 30 minutes)


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So doing a double flourish every 30 seconds gives you more XP over the long run.


XP variables.


You get more XP when someone


Groups with you, listens to you, /cheers for you, starts playing an instrument or dancing (more per their level I think), and you must play your best instrument or song to get max XP.

Ekhben
Mon Jul 28, 2003 5:39 pm
#9

And, as I posted before, increase your Stamina pool and lower your Action pool, and double flourish EVERY tick. XP in 60 minutes at a rate of 29 per tick: 10440. My Stamina is 800, and I can flourish every tick without breaking a sweat.





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Waho
Mon Jul 28, 2003 10:26 pm
#10

Throw down some giggle dust too. +300 to action and quickness for 10 minutes. (-100 to mind, but we musicians don't need that )



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