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I will often use any of my insturments to buff. Normally the Chindaluku horn so i can keep them targeted.

I have found that the person needs to /stoplisten as well before you stop playing for it to stick. 10 mins is normally a good time but sometimes 2 mins is enough Hope this helps

Mistq Shehester

Master Musician/Entertainer

Soga Mijizi - Recruitment Officer

i dont think it actually matters what instrument you use, but the lenght of time you do it for. For the full 2hr buff I have heard difference of opinion for playing anywhere from 5-10 mins. 8 mins seems to be the consensus though.

Charris456,

You don't have to use the nalargon to confer the buff, but you can. The key is to ensure the listener is /listening; target the listner with a mouse-click;type /setperform before you start playing; then target the nala; then start playing; then, after 8 minutes or so, direct the listener to type /stoplisten or choose stop listen from the radial menu. In other words, you don't have to keep the listener targeted; you only need have them targeted for the moment that you type /setperform.

As for what's going wrong, I don't think it's your choice of instruments. I've fully buffed people using the chid horn, ommni box, bandfill, and manoviol. Sometimes the problem is that the buffer doesn't flourish enough; the devs say you're supposed to flourish. I don't see song choice making a difference, but to be safe I always choose one of our top four or five songs.

Sometimes the problem is thatthe listener isn't /listening right. They have to target you with mouse-click, /listen, and notmove out of range for 10 minutes, and then -- crucially -- type /stoplisten or use the radial stop listen choice. Another possible bug is that listeners may have trouble gettingthe buff if they've recently died or crashed to desktop -- I'm still trying to verify that one.Finally, another possibility is that the listener has other buffs up; until the most recent patch, this spelled trouble. It's supposedly been fixed now, but you might ask about itnext time you try.

Try it again. Talk to the listener about all the questions I've raised above. I've done the buff about eight times in a row with no hitches over the past couple of days, so I know it can work.

Jedi, you don't actually have to have someone targetted to do /setperform. It's the same as anything else...if that person can be /smile <name> or whaterver emoted at, then /setperform <name> works, too. I rely heavily on the /emote <name> feature and do it without even thinking. (Lots of reasons for this, but one of them is that when I first started using macros to do short flourish sequences, I didn't know the recursive command and had an emote at the end... /blow . That can be rather embarrassing if you're not really good friends with the person targetted! I just like bubbles....)

So, any response as to what the heck is wreaking havoc on the ability to do /command <name> to folks and having it not work?

Echinacea, I know the command-line works in theory with /setperform, as with other slash commands -- but as you say, the recent patch has partly borked this functionality. That's why I suggest mouse-clicking to target and then typing /setperform; if you use the command line, you risk not getting through properly.

My theory is that mounts have bugged the command line commands. If someone is on a mount, you don't see them on radar, and you may have trouble /emoting at them. More troubling, even AFTER they dismount, you may have trouble /emoting at them -- or they may have trouble /emoting at you. I'm still testing this, but that's my impression: mounts are the culprit.

I've started threads on this command-line issue in the Correspondent Forum, and I have not yet had a response. I will bump them today.

/doh self I never even thought that mounts would be the cause! I wonder...if people store their mount while they're riding it...is that what's doing it?

Hello everyone..

Sorry, Im a Newb to this profession, No a Holo didn't tell me to do this profession, so sorry if this is a newb question.

I was wondering. I have heard that you are sopose to use your highest instrument, and song to do a good buff, and that you are sopose to the keep the player targeted after you /setperform. But, I'm wondering how you are sopose to do this with a Narlagon(SP?), because I dont know if its a bug or something, but I always stop playing if I dont keep a Narlagon/Omni Box targeted. So if your highest instrument is Narlagon and you want to buff someone, how are you sopose to keep them both targeted?

I have buffed about 6 times since I have became Master Musician. And I usually use a Ankularu(SP?) Horn, or Bandfill, and some of the only buffed 40, or some only lasted about 10 min. I think 2 of the actually worked (Doubled Stats, and lasted 2 hours). Is the reason that im failing, because I dont use a Narlagon to Buff?

Thanks in advance for you help.

Thanks for you help... I buffed a couple of times tonight, and all of them went well - Doubled stats, but it was a group buff. I will have to try out some of those techiniques mentioned above, and see how well they work for individual buffs.

Also, I have one more question... Should I charge anything for a buff, and if so how much?

Well, I did a couple friends with the passive buff, they let it go for just 10 minutes and got the full 75% I can do, and didn't say anything about it wearing off early. Another friend I did a /setperform for did 10 minutes of listening and it lasted for about 1.5 hours. A straight-up customer had the same result. When I'm intending to buff someone, I make sure I haul out the Ommni Box and flourish my fingers off with 9 second pauses. (Otherwise I'm playing the Bandfill for the sound, to conserve Action and to be able to target folks if I want. Right now I'm just trying to get my last bits of Fatigue Healing finished, so I don't flourish constantly unless there's a medic about or I have a Stamina enhancement.) The nice thing about buffing someone and flourishing like crazy is that, face it, most of the folks who want the buff will have medic skills and will keep you healed without you even asking, and then tip after. In my limited experience so far, anyway!

There have been a couple times I've kept ahold of the Bandfill. There's never any guarantee about the song the band is playing, usually Folk if we can manage it. So I think, honestly, it's how much we flourish. Not that I'm very good about metrics, though. I prefer to eyeball stuff and gauge best as I can.

If someone asks me how much I charge for buffing, I usually say free because I'm really not interested in credits as an entertainer (that's what I have fencing for). However, I've noticed that I end up getting anywhere between 0 and 10000 credits per person anyway. People are generally very grateful for the buff and, so far, have been demonstrating it with very generous tips. I can't say that'll work for everyone, but it's just been my experience.

Again thanks alot for your help, I've started charging 3k per buff, but if the people tell me they cant afford it, I just go ahead and do it for free..

I have read your Buffing FAQ, New Jedi.. thanks alot for it.. I wish I wouldve had it sooner..

Im still wondering about group buffs though, this is what I have tried, but failed.. somewhat

1. I have everyone in the group /listen me.


2. I /setperfrom on one of the listeners in the group.


3. I wait 15 min.

Im also in the group with those.

But only 2 or 3 of the people in the group (out of 6) got the buff.. is there a limit on the amount of people you can buff? And does a group buff mean "passive"?

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charris456 wrote:

Thanks for you help... I buffed a couple of times tonight, and all of them went well - Doubled stats, but it was a group buff. I will have to try out some of those techiniques mentioned above, and see how well they work for individual buffs.

Also, I have one more question... Should I charge anything for a buff, and if so how much?

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Glad to help. I've now created a buff FAQ in this forum, and I'm updating it as people find boo-boos in it, so you may want to consult that too.

Sure, charge for the buff! When I buff for the general public, I usually just suggest a donation between 1000-5000 credits, and I take whatever I get. I know dancers who charge a flat fee of 3000 or so per buff. Mostly, though, I buff for city-mates and guildies and groupmates and my own alt, so I'm not charging often these days.

Echinacea, I'm glad to hear the passive buff worked that well. I often read complaints that our buff is one-target-only. If you have a large number of customers, it sounds like the passive buff is actually the more efficient one: better to buff 20 people for 10-20 minutes once than to buff each individually for 8 minutes at a time.

I had thought there was no limit on the number of group members (in your own group only) that you can buff, up to the limit of 20 group members. But I confess I've never buffed more than 3 or 4 of my own group members, and I usually end up using /setperform on one or two anyway. Tonight I might have a chance to do a passive buff on a large number of people, so I'll try it.

Yes, the "passive" buff refers to the buff to members in YOUR group. Some questions about why only a couple of your groupmates got the buff:

1.You say you "waited" 15 minutes; did you ever stop playing? Did you flourish continously? To be safe, play and flourish nonstop; change music using /changemusic, not /stop.

2. You didn't say whether everyone stayed nearby, and whether they all typed /stoplisten (or chose radial stop listen) at the end of the performance. They can't wander off for even a minute.

3. I wonder whether /setperform might be the culprit. (That's the active buff, directed to one person only.) Have you tried the group buff without using /setperform? I'll try it tonight.

4. Had any member of your group recently died, crashed, or gone LD? This sometimes can interfere with the buff.