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gRampz

Fri Jul 22, 2005 2:03 am

As sad as it may be... the Entertainer (and all related professions.. but I am going to address Dancer and Musican here) are in a very sad state. The ideas that I have below hopefully are original, but if someone else thought of this before, or posted about it and I "stole" the idea, I honestly apologize. I'm just trying to share with the community and the Developers something I thought of that might be beneficial.

My idea is this. Essentially, Dancers and Musicians only have one purpose, and that purpose is shared between the two of them, making mastering both of the professions worthless. They almost seem like an RP only profession at this point. Hopefully, that should not, and will never be the case. If these professions ever go to 0 SP, I think that the Developers will lose a good part of their community...

That one purpose right now is actually not a bad one. Inspiration buffs are something that people need, and they are generally appreciated. The days of Entertainer healing seem to be over (at least for now...) and so I am going to draw my ideas and inspirations partly from the system in which the Developers are using right now... that Entertainers are meant to buff the character that chooses to use them. However, I think that only one buff that is shared between the two professions is clearly a lack of caring for the Entertainer profession.. almost negligence. Surely the developers can change something to make them more effective.

What I am propossing is this. Like craftable nibblies from Chefs, and Medical Enhancements (buffs) from Doctors, I think that Entertainers should be able to provide some type of short term reward. With the current focus entirely on combat in Star Wars Galaxies at the moment, I think that by giving Entertainers, Dancers, and Musicians more available buffs to dole out to other characters a great way to give them purpose. Not only would this allow the Entertainers (generally speaking) to perform in the cantina and have people come and visit them, but they would actually be able to (Nostalgia /on for the early days of SWG) participate in the group of 8 that goes out hunting by performing in camps. This could further put some emphasis on the need for scouts (and therefore Rangers) which would be very healthy for the game that has a horrible imbalance of Ranged and Jedi Professions.

How will the different buffs be available you ask? Through the different dances and musical selections that are available. The starting dances and songs could offer inspiration buff, which would be available at Novice Entertainer to help those characters start on their way to Elite, and then it could move up with each song so that it has a more potent effect.

Obviously the buffs would not have to be long term, and this would even promote more dancing and playing in combat camps and allow more interaction to be seen with the Entertainer.(I would hope Insp. Buff could remain longterm however). Obviously this would help out with the problem of AFK Entertainers, and even help the less experienced players get right into the action.

Also... Musicians and Dancers would have to have different effects with their Buffs. For instance, The Musician could be more focused on the Range Profession Enhancements, while the Dancer gives better Buffs to the Melee Professions. There would have to be a couple of continuities betwixt the two, but each could focus on different aspects to Buff. (Such as Melee Defense, Melee Speed, Ranged Defense, Ranged Speed... etc).

Please give me some feedback on this idea... it is only preliminary... and I hope to add more to it soon (including more ideas on the actual buffs that would be given to each profession). So please write down your thoughts, concerns, anything that could need changing. And please don't be afraid to tell me that it is ridiculous, and won't work.

-gRampz

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psikobunny

Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:03 am

#2

Most of us like the songs we're playing, and like the dances we dance, and avoid the ones we dislike. Not a big fan of having the content of my performance dictated by the buff the combatant in front of me wants, just like I wasn't a big fan of the pace of my performance being dictated by the need to give out a buff in the shortest amount of time.

Also, buffs that are yet more mods to different skills hasn't come forward as the best answer either. Do they stack? can they be abused? will they even be high enough to be noticeable? Does out buff outperform and make useless and existing skill/food/item? File firmly under "it might be nice" but it's a lot harder to implement than you might think, and honestly the sorts of buffs you're talking about really seem to step on the toes of another greatly unloved class, the Squad Leader. I'd rather take the simpler approach of letting them do things they were truly meant for, instead of trying to get an ever smaller slice of the combat mods pie.

Our buffs should reflect what Entertainment does for people, or reflect the role we should have in the swg universe. There have been lots of great discussions on staking out entirely new territory for Entertainer buffs, instead of just adding another layer of skill mods that may or may not work. I'd be far more excited about some of those ideas than I would in becoming just another source of mods.

I'm not replying to dump on your thoughts, I'm just explaining that the conversations we've been having already have somewhat moved beyond this point.

Gilack Mehoipou [Bloodfin]

Quintuple Master- Marksman/Squad Leader/Rifleman/Vortex Pilot/Politician

Made it before all hell broke loose.

Rodian-Gunslinger

Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:52 pm

#3

Sony should just continue the path of the darkside and turn the entertainers into Bards, that'd give them a role in StarQuest... ahem, I mean EverGalaxies... errr...

They better do something with Entertainers real quick or like many have said before, a huge portion of the community is going to be gone.

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Mariki

Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:48 am

#4

The only feedback I can give you on your ideas is that if you hold on to them, you will be depressed.

People have been giving great ideas for two years and it hasn't helped, the profession has continued to decline.

Just about anything you can come up with has already been thrown out there and canned or ignored.

Mariki Lee, Ex Rifleman
Last day Dec 2nd
Death by NGE
- All Hope Gone

yonderboyOSLT

Tue Jul 26, 2005 7:36 am

#5

You do realize how much your idea (great idea btw) sounds like a depressed version of what we used to have?

Musicians and Dancers *used to* have buffs that did different things.

Musicians and Dancers *used to* buff better as their skills progressed.

(I'm thinking that he meant to have one branch determine the pure skill of your buff whereas other branches would be the instruments and the songs and the dances and the props and all of that... like how it *used to* be)

You say "Surely the developers can change something to make them more effective" I say "No... evidence points to the contrary."

Just accept the fact that the StarQuest developers have an intense, burning, passionate, personal hatred of you. Accept this and life in SWG (however much longer you decide to keep yourself abused) will be easier to bare.

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