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Thread: Has this ever happend to you??
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JeCy
Mon Jan 10, 2005 3:23 pm
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Posted this on the muscian forums.. too thought you would all like to see it too
/rantOn
I put a post on the radiant boards, come to theed cantina, live entertainment.. its a spam free zone.. was an invite for people to come see a group of all live at keyboard people. we have been talking joiking all afternoon.. in the post i even said come on down tell us a joke,, good or bad,, real groaners will get tiped !
Well what do we get.. people tearing us apart saying we dont know how to buff. all we do is socialize and dont DO our job..
Since when is my job to buff you? non of us are wearing a master title, and infact none of us are even masters. We are just there having fun, and the post was to come on down and have fun.. no where in the post did it say come down for a buff or PVP'ers come here.. it was come on down and join the fun.. and what do i get.. flamed and one stared... the funny thing is there is an afk buff bot inside the cantina which i didnt mention in the post soo if they came down they could have gotton there buff bot crap and still had fun.. I have not been doing this long but i can see entertainers get zero respect.. im not doing it for credits, i have plenty as my alt is a crafter and havent even done that in 6 months cuase ive just been living off what i made. but had i wanted to do this for a prof.. i couldnt soo far im just about 0-4-4-3 and ive gotton one tip for 10k and ragged on.. nice people ehh.
if it wasnt for the other fun entertainers, or this girl i hang with, we entertain together and have lots of fun i wouldnt do it,.
/rantOff
Je'Cy
warrenbassist
Tue Jan 11, 2005 2:22 pm
#2
I've gotten my fair share of hate tells, related to not buffing. Didn't think I'd come forth and say this but, can anyone tell me how to buff with a musician?
Thanx
Tralmek
Tue Jan 11, 2005 2:36 pm
#3
I Entertain solely for the joy of Entertaining and the community we have. I've done at least something with every other profession, mastered the majority, but I haven't ever found another set of people as wonderful as those in the Entertainment professions. I'mnot too stingy with my buffs--I'll buff pretty much anyone as long as they're not coming up to me and spamming "invite buff plz." Those who try to tear you down for being a true Entertainer aren't worth the time it takes to reply. Remember that self esteem and worth should come from within, you don't need anyone else out there to validate you and make you feel good about yourself. 
If it's any comfort though, these same folks who berate you now will be crawling to you on their knees begging for buffs when AFK macroing is finally removed.
And for the person who wanted to know more about how tobuff: Sticky on Music Buffs
Message Edited by Tralmek on 01-11-2005 02:37 PM
Kryxal
Tue Jan 11, 2005 7:43 pm
#4
I think if they want a buff, you SHOULD give them one ... it's not like they shouldn't have some idea that you can't buff for 100%!
Shorrim2
Wed Jan 12, 2005 7:41 am
#5
No.
I occasionally get /tells asking for buffs when I'm in Coronet (and I have my MM title up). Usually I oblige. Sometimes I'm only passing through, and I decline. I've never had anyone abuse me for that.
Anyone who asks me face to face for a buff - well, I'm probably already playing, so I don't recall ever saying no.
I occasionally get /tells asking for buffs when I'm in Coronet (and I have my MM title up). Usually I oblige. Sometimes I'm only passing through, and I decline. I've never had anyone abuse me for that.
Anyone who asks me face to face for a buff - well, I'm probably already playing, so I don't recall ever saying no.
LyteFoot
Wed Jan 12, 2005 8:50 am
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Don't feel too bad, it is unfortunately the state of perception about entertainers. The group I enterain with likes to do impromptu tours. We will all go to a starport somewhere and jam for the general enjoyment of the other players. When there we get 4 types of players, the ones wanting a buff (you can't in a starport 
), the ones wanting to know why we aren't in a cantina, the ones who totally ignore us, and the ones who enjoy the show and stay to watch awhile (sometimes through several shuttles).
The last group in that list makes up for all the others and we haven't done a tour yet that we didn't get 2 to 10 people in that category. So ignore the ones who are so accustomed to buff-bots that they forget we are people playing a game just like them and think we OWE them something. It is your game, you pay for the service and don't owe another player a single thing. If those players don't like it tough put them on ignore and move on.
), the ones wanting to know why we aren't in a cantina, the ones who totally ignore us, and the ones who enjoy the show and stay to watch awhile (sometimes through several shuttles).The last group in that list makes up for all the others and we haven't done a tour yet that we didn't get 2 to 10 people in that category. So ignore the ones who are so accustomed to buff-bots that they forget we are people playing a game just like them and think we OWE them something. It is your game, you pay for the service and don't owe another player a single thing. If those players don't like it tough put them on ignore and move on.
warrenbassist
Wed Jan 12, 2005 9:56 am
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LyteFoot wrote:
Don't feel too bad, it is unfortunately the state of perception about entertainers. The group I enterain with likes to do impromptu tours. We will all go to a starport somewhere and jam for the general enjoyment of the other players. When there we get 4 types of players, the ones wanting a buff (you can't in a starport
The last group in that list makes up for all the others and we haven't done a tour yet that we didn't get 2 to 10 people in that category. So ignore the ones who are so accustomed to buff-bots that they forget we are people playing a game just like them and think we OWE them something. It is your game, you pay for the service and don't owe another player a single thing. If those players don't like it tough put them on ignore and move on.
It is nice having those who watch to enjoy the show, but it is very rare, always seems everybody is in a hurry to get somewhere. lol
Tralmek
Thu Jan 13, 2005 9:42 am
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warrenbassist wrote:
It is nice having those who watch to enjoy the show, but it is very rare, always seems everybody is in a hurry to get somewhere. lol
But it does happen. I remember a few starport jams ago when I was needing people to listen to me for publicity to earn Western. I naturally started in the cantina where everyone ran through me to get to the buffbot...and stood there for five minutes spamming "invite plz." Afteran hour or more of that, and receiving only two buffing jobs/two listeners, I moseyed on out to the starport to jam with Doasa. I had my listeners within minutes and I was able to move on to the next step.
I remember a few starport jams ago when I was needing people to listen to me for publicity to earn Western. I naturally started in the cantina where everyone ran through me to get to the buffbot...and stood there for five minutes spamming "invite plz." Afteran hour or more of that, and receiving only two buffing jobs/two listeners, I moseyed on out to the starport to jam with Doasa. I had my listeners within minutes and I was able to move on to the next step. I was amazed at the number of people who listened--and even more amazed at the number of people who waited through a couple of shuttles, butI was totally blown awayafter I got Western and people asked if it was a new song since they had never heard it before. (This was beforeWestern made it to the patch notes) There are people out there who care about the music we actually play...they don't all have WMP or AMP playing instead of us.
Atlantiss
Fri Jan 14, 2005 4:42 pm
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Tralmek wrote:I Entertain solely for the joy of Entertaining and the community we have.
Me too, i play my music for the joy and the entertainment of others. I generaly avoid the cantina and play in starports or other locations as long as it can be classed as "outside". Don't get me wrong I do buff people if asked and i'm nearby but I never have a master title up (either Virtuoso or Personal Trainer) as i think they look better above my head! It's fun to play music, it fun to do it in a group and it more fun to do it in a group where people don't expect it
Message Edited by Atlantiss on 01-14-2005 11:43 PM
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