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Thread: TC Ent Quests ?

DarkY0da
Tue Jul 27, 2004 2:25 pm
#1
Any update to them ? Have they put the rewards in yet ? Is it still just noob quests ?



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Fragpuppie
Tue Jul 27, 2004 11:21 pm
#2
I haven't looked recently but will tonight.


The quests were not ALL nooob quests....but 3 of 7 were. Also another 3 of 7 were all a 2nd template.


1- Audition...play specific songs and flos on request.

2- Noob 1...get 10 ppl to listen to you

3- Performance 1...ask audience what they want and play and try to get a ranking. You get 180 secs to chat up the audience.

4- Noob 2...get 20 ppl to listen to you

5- Performance 2....same as 3...longer performance higher ranking needed...less time to chat up audience (120 seconds)

6- Noob 3....get 30 ppl to listen to you

7- Final performance...same as 5...even longer...even higher needed...60 secs to ask audience.



Fragpuppie Uber
Master Entertainer, Master Musician
Guild Leader - Performer United Professional Society (PUPS)
Band Leader and Booking Agent - Frag's Puppies
President and CEO - Fragpuppie Enterprises and Uber Instruments
Coronet, Corellia, Chilastra
Warryyr
Wed Jul 28, 2004 8:26 am
#3




Fragpuppie wrote:

I haven't looked recently but will tonight.


The quests were not ALL nooob quests....but 3 of 7 were. Also another 3 of 7 were all a 2nd template.


1- Audition...play specific songs and flos on request.

2- Noob 1...get 10 ppl to listen to you

3- Performance 1...ask audience what they want and play and try to get a ranking. You get 180 secs to chat up the audience.

4- Noob 2...get 20 ppl to listen to you

5- Performance 2....same as 3...longer performance higher ranking needed...less time to chat up audience (120 seconds)

6- Noob 3....get 30 ppl to listen to you

7- Final performance...same as 5...even longer...even higher needed...60 secs to ask audience.



Fragpuppie Uber
Master Entertainer, Master Musician
Guild Leader - Performer United Professional Society (PUPS)
Band Leader and Booking Agent - Frag's Puppies
President and CEO - Fragpuppie Enterprises and Uber Instruments
Coronet, Corellia, Chilastra





What did they do, put a looping macro into their coding?


Hmmm, repeat tasks - less time to do it. Repeat tasks - more people to entertain.


What amazing creativity and riveting content. The combat folks get the Death Watch Bunker and the Corellian Corvette. We get the same 2 "quests" copied and pasted again and again. I guess that's a choice...


we aer teh winner

Fragpuppie
Wed Jul 28, 2004 10:09 am
#4




Warryyr wrote:


What did they do, put a looping macro into their coding?


Hmmm, repeat tasks - less time to do it. Repeat tasks - more people to entertain.


What amazing creativity and riveting content. The combat folks get the Death Watch Bunker and the Corellian Corvette. We get the same 2 "quests" copied and pasted again and again. I guess that's a choice...


we aer teh winner




What?


You're our dev and you didn't write these????


I was gonna send you a nasty note about it too. 8)



Fragpuppie Uber
Master Entertainer, Master Musician
Guild Leader - Performer United Professional Society (PUPS)
Band Leader and Booking Agent - Frag's Puppies
President and CEO - Fragpuppie Enterprises and Uber Instruments
Coronet, Corellia, Chilastra


NewJedi
Wed Jul 28, 2004 11:40 pm
#5
I'm away on vacation, and while I can play SWG on Live, I don't have TC installed on this laptop. So I still haven't tested these new quests! I gather, though, that the reward of a new song is still not in yet?
Warryyr
Thu Jul 29, 2004 5:28 am
#6




Fragpuppie wrote:




Warryyr wrote:


What did they do, put a looping macro into their coding?


Hmmm, repeat tasks - less time to do it. Repeat tasks - more people to entertain.


What amazing creativity and riveting content. The combat folks get the Death Watch Bunker and the Corellian Corvette. We get the same 2 "quests" copied and pasted again and again. I guess that's a choice...


we aer teh winner




What?


You're our dev and you didn't write these????


I was gonna send you a nasty note about it too. 8)



Fragpuppie Uber
Master Entertainer, Master Musician
Guild Leader - Performer United Professional Society (PUPS)
Band Leader and Booking Agent - Frag's Puppies
President and CEO - Fragpuppie Enterprises and Uber Instruments
Coronet, Corellia, Chilastra





Didn't you know? As soon as I was made Musician Dev Pro Tempore they immediately made me start working on the code for Chef. I mean, it only makes sense...


Fordep
Fri Jul 30, 2004 6:32 pm
#7
get 30 people to watch you?


at the same time or total?


and you only have like 5 min to do it?


I don't remember the last time I had 30 people around who could watch me let alone watching only me and all at the same time.


At least it does not take 30 min to finish and pay 200 credits.
Fragpuppie
Fri Jul 30, 2004 6:46 pm
#8




Fordep wrote:

get 30 people to watch you?


at the same time or total?


and you only have like 5 min to do it?


I don't remember the last time I had 30 people around who could watch me let alone watching only me and all at the same time.


At least it does not take 30 min to finish and pay 200 credits.






30 people total....and you can do it over a month if you want.



Fragpuppie Uber
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Guild Leader - Performer United Professional Society (PUPS)
Founding Member - Frag's Puppies
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Coronet, Corellia, Chilastra

Fordep
Fri Jul 30, 2004 7:13 pm
#9
oh... I thought it was a combination of them...


still nothing exciting there.
Beery
Sun Aug 01, 2004 6:38 am
#10
"3- Performance 1...ask audience what they want and play and try to get a ranking. You get 180 secs to chat up the audience."


To 'chat up' the audience? Are we musicians or are we comedians? I thought we were here to play music, not to spend our time chattering.



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Combat is no longer compulsory.
Xyrdre
Sun Aug 01, 2004 7:20 am
#11




Beery wrote:

"3- Performance 1...ask audience what they want and play and try to get a ranking. You get 180 secs to chat up the audience."


To 'chat up' the audience? Are we musicians or are we comedians? I thought we were here to play music, not to spend our time chattering.





No, you don't have to /conv with the NPC audience if you don't want to, Beery. Not at all.


But... since what you're trying to do in the quest is gain a high enough audience approval rating to 'succeed', and as some of those audience members will tell you what songs/dances and flourishes they hope to hear/see (and sometimes what they really don't want to see), it can behoove you to canvass the crowd. Or, you can always just play the music you want and hope that the approval rating goes highenough. If it doesn't, you can always try again 24 hours later.


Of course, the feedback you'll get is along the lines of "Do flourish 7", and if you do flourish 7, your approval rating goes up.


No, I don't really think that these Entertainer Quests are what I'd call satisfying game play. Right now, to me they're more of a hurdle to go through to get a new song and dance. I'm spending some time collecting my thoughts on how these quests (or future ones)might be improved, but for now... this is what we have coming.





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Ravanne_Esi
Sun Aug 01, 2004 7:23 am
#12
These "quests" are just one more example of the DEVs not having a clue as to what being an entertainer means. They have no vision and limited imagination as is evident from so many of their recent actions.




Ravanne Esi
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Ragin' Rancor Enterprises
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Beery
Sun Aug 01, 2004 11:42 am
#13
"Of course, the feedback you'll get is along the lines of "Do flourish 7", and if you do flourish 7, your approval rating goes up."


Oh Jeez!


Yeah, when I'm in a bar, listening to a live band, I often hear audience members yell out: "Hey, play just the onefive-second extract startingfrom a point 45 seconds into the song from thefourthsong on your last album" or: "when you sing the first song on your first album, please don't sing the first five words from the last sentence of the song". In real life, agreeing to that sort of request might make the one psycho who asked for it a bit happier, but the rest of the audience would be puzzled at best, or at worst annoyed. It's hardly likely to boost a real audience'sapproval ratings.


I just think this is ridiculous. I mean why couldn't they just ask for us to playa certain song or dance for two or three minutes? Surely that would determine the competence of the musician/dancer. To ask for a certain flourish removes any sense of suspension of disbelief. In my opinion this particular quest sounds like something concocted by a particularly bureaucratic and out-of-touchcommittee. I find it increasingly difficult to maintain a level of optimism when months of development result in silly and unrealistic "features" like this.


I mean we've given the developers tons of ideas for new content over the past year, and the developers have ignored all the best ones - even those thatwould beeasily-implemented. Isthis shoddy effortreally the best they can do?



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Since June 2004, running one of the game's first completely nonviolent characters. Testing the limits of non-combat MMORPG play and trying to have fun into the bargain (although the developers make it difficult).

Combat is no longer compulsory.
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