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Thread: New Instrument Vibro-Harp

Faydra
Fri Aug 08, 2003 5:21 pm
#27

ok I agree each instument should haev its own song


I do not want them to remove any of them add new ones yes but do not remove any


jsut change the ones we have so that they sound diffrent then add morer like the harp super idea


Waho
Sat Aug 09, 2003 1:00 am
#28

"And the bandfill can really be described like a tuba then a bass guitar... eh?"


No it's definately bass that you hear. Possibly synth, but I've had my bass sound just like that plugged through the right equipment.




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Sskar
Sun Aug 10, 2003 4:34 am
#29

Being able to play the "rare" and elusive mandoviol stringed instrument is one of the whole goals of working to ME is isn't it? Isn't that supposed to be a reward for mastering everything below it? An extra bonus on top of the already known music skills?



I fail to see why pure Master Musicians (not ME) feel like they are losing out on something they "SHOULD" have. All I see is they are not getting the ***extra bonus*** reward for going through the extra branches of dancing and ID.



The Mandoviol and stringed sound it produces is something easily recognizable and you KNOW its a master entertainer playing. I feel any other stringed (or similar sounding) instrument added would greatly de-value the ME experience, especially if this new instrument actually sounds better!



Anyone else share this view?



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Niklesnitz
Mon Aug 11, 2003 6:06 am
#30






MikeSty wrote:
Heheheh....... cello.. can't tell if you're trying to insult me or not.


An interesting sound for a Vibro-Harp would be like.. that.. egyptian music song.. whatever the hell you call that.

Well, you guys keep talkin' aboot a way to salve the Mandoviol Crisis... a new stringed instrument seemed appropriate. Now we just need NewJedi to force them to make it sound cool!

Now... a new song would be good... Rock2 (REAL rock!)... Techno? Disco? Rap? More songs that fit dances like poplock would be cool like someone else suggested.



no, that was not an insult. Would really like to see a cello.



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Hijo
Mon Aug 11, 2003 6:35 am
#31






KieSharku wrote:




Hijo wrote:
I would also envision them giving it the same sound set as mandoviol, in which case we would be back to the question: then why the hell would anyone be an ME...



Why? Because ME would allow those who don't want to climb up the musician tree to have a taste of one of the best instruments in the class at a far earlier stage than the "pure" musician.

I like this idea (probably because it mirrors my own that I posted a week or two ago in these forums). And until dancers and image designers also have to give up something unique and valuable to their class to the ME slot, I will continue to support the removal of the mandoviol from "ME-only" status. If you're going to make one of the entertainer branches give up something like that to the ME, then all three should have to.

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I'm sorry, I don't think this was intended to be a 'remove mandoviol from ME'thread... let's not make it one.

spentmotiff
Mon Aug 11, 2003 2:50 pm
#32

I'm all for the Vibro-Harp. It's funny, way way back in the pre-release boards, I tried for the Corellian Mandolin, just because I was afraid all the instruments would be sax-types. I love the Harp idea, but would still love having an instrument with an acoustic guitar sound. I've heard the mandivol, and it sounds great, but just not...acoustic. I don't know.


Corellian Mandolin and/or Vibro-Harp. Either one would get my vote!




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ChaoKuang
Mon Aug 11, 2003 3:53 pm
#33

Personally, I'd love to see a violin in the field. Mandovial isn't close enough. ^.^



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KoraJubali
Mon Aug 11, 2003 11:41 pm
#34



Ramoz wrote:


MikeSty wrote:
/bumpindisguise

Does anyone have any idea of this twingtwang egyptian song noise thang that I'm reffering to or are you absolutely clueless?

As to the drums.. sweet.. but.. new topic?


Sitar? If so, It's from India not Egypt.




In Egypt there is an instrument called a Rebab. Nice sound that you are describing.

BTW Sty, I was not making fun of you, I like the idea and I think Mon Calmarian Pipes would be another unique addition to the instrument list.

The pipes would have to be primarily a solo instrument and have a unique song that only the pipes could play.



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KoraJubali
Mon Aug 11, 2003 11:43 pm
#35

http://www.belly-dance.org/rebab.htm

There's a site with hte rebab described. There are many many instruments in the world that are called "Rebab", the one in Egypt has the sound you are describing.



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Ramoz
Tue Aug 12, 2003 12:15 am
#36






MikeSty wrote:
/bumpindisguise

Does anyone have any idea of this twingtwang egyptian song noise thang that I'm reffering to or are you absolutely clueless?

As to the drums.. sweet.. but.. new topic?




Sitar? If so, It's from India not Egypt.
Bulbous2
Wed Aug 13, 2003 3:26 pm
#37

Well, at least you have accepted that you won't get the Mandoviol. That's a good first step. Now, just give up on the idea of stringed instruments entirely, and you're home! Quit whining, now.

KoraJubali
Fri Aug 15, 2003 12:21 am
#38

There's plenty of stringed instrument sounds to go around. Harp-type is very different from lute-type sounds. There's room for another stringed instrument without "stealing" from the ME or cheapening ME's uniqueness.

And the Vibro-Harp is the perfect candidate for the job!

/vote Arnold
er...
/vote Vibro-Harp!


yeah. that's it. ...

I don't see it as whining, we (musicians) need new instruments and new sounds for current instruments and new songs and new flourishes. This is a good suggestion for the devs for added content later on and I don't believe it will mimic or cheapen ME's Mandoviol.

And it's Star-Warsy too. "vibro" etc. . .. a tribal Tuscan thing they make and serenade thier banthas with.
Soundbox can be made from wood or bone, the traditional Tuscan manufacture is with a bantha skull. Failing that, whatever materials are around as they are nomads. Strings obviously from Bantha hair. The post is heartwood or a bantha thigh bone, a fresh bone too, can't be brittle in order to take all the tension from the strings.

Because they're nomads, Tuscans make these harps from small banthas so the instrument is portable. However, when the instrument was championed in more civilized areas (by pioneer composers looking for a "native" sound) Vibro-Harps began to be made more often from wood and in a larger dimension. The larger scale was primarily for more sound production to compete in the large orchestras that were en vouge at the time.

In current common practice, the Vibro-Harp is played while sitting down and plucked with the fingers. The instrument may have as little as 18 corses on the smaller, tribal versions (due to the micro-tonal, non-hemitonic scale the Tuscans use in their music tradition) to as many as 72 corses for the larger orchestral cousin. On rare occasions vibro-harps have been documented with more strings.

Purists prefer the more "original" Bantha bone type for the authentic sound. But current trends in areas such as Naboo discourage unnecesary animal slaughter; in these areas, wood is more commonly used.

The history of the Mandoviol is well documented. It should be clear from this description that the two instruments do not replace each other in the way Traz players double Slither parts now that Slitherhorns are rarely used in modern orchestras.



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