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Thread: umm, hello?

Aleyo
Tue Mar 22, 2005 10:05 am
#14


Landlubber wrote:


Warryyr wrote:


Serratia wrote:
Big group hug and a cookie for all the testers! (Warryyr, looks like you've got some sand in your fur...)


Nah, just getting impatient. And slightly disillusioned. It happens.




Yeah, but sand in your fur is bad too. It's why I prefer Naboo




"I don’t like sand. It’s coarse and rough and irritating, and it gets everywhere. Not like [Naboo]. [On Naboo], everything's soft... and smoooth..."



yeah.. I went there.

Message Edited by Aleyo on 03-22-2005 11:16 AM




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Warryyr
Tue Mar 22, 2005 11:38 am
#15






Aleyo wrote:




Landlubber wrote:





Warryyr wrote:





Serratia wrote:

Big group hug and a cookie for all the testers! (Warryyr, looks like you've got some sand in your fur...)





Nah, just getting impatient. And slightly disillusioned. It happens.









Yeah, but sand in your fur is bad too. It's why I prefer Naboo







"I don’t like sand. It’s coarse and rough and irritating, and it gets everywhere. Not like [Naboo]. [On Naboo], everything's soft... and smoooth..."



yeah.. I went there.

Message Edited by Aleyo on 03-22-2005 11:16 AM




Yep, you sure did go there.


That was quite possibly the worst courtship in a movie I'd ever seen. When Padme expresses her deep burning love for Anakin, my only reaction was, "Why? That dude is such a cheesy dork, and nothing he says sounds sincere."


Between blathering Jar Jar in Episode I and the love story in Episode II, I fear what travesty of a screenplay is written up in Episode III. I seriously hope the action and the massive amount of necessary story progression prevent ol' Georgie from screwing this one up.



Warryyr
Tue Mar 22, 2005 11:41 am
#16






Ubergamer wrote:
Quite simple really. If they erradicate the entertainer professions (to the point of being useless), a Class-Action Lawsuit would make sense to me, especially considering all the time and money we have spent developing characters in their game. I'm suprised there wasn't one already for 2 years of waiting for content and not having any regarding our professions. And we're still waiting.

Our case is self-explanatory. False advertising.




For what a lawsuit costs nowadays, it'd be so not worth it. Nobody really gets anything useful from class actions anyways, we'd probably get coupons good for up to 3 blank audio cassettes from Sony. And the lawyers would walk away massively rich.



Serratia
Tue Mar 22, 2005 12:09 pm
#17








Aleyo wrote:


"I don’t like sand. It’s coarse and rough and irritating, and it gets everywhere. Not like [Naboo]. [On Naboo], everything's soft... and smoooth..."



yeah.. I went there.


Message Edited by Aleyo on 03-22-2005 11:16 AM



Eshi, please /spank him.... Those words should never, ever, ever be repeated.




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Nifty
Tue Mar 22, 2005 12:23 pm
#18






Warryyr wrote:

That was quite possibly the worst courtship in a movie I'd ever seen. When Padme expresses her deep burning love for Anakin, my only reaction was, "Why? That dude is such a cheesy dork, and nothing he says sounds sincere."




That's exactly why she loved him. She was so sick and tired of smooth talking politicians, that Anakin coming up with the worst pickup line in the history of the galaxy won her over.


As for the screenplay... I'm just in it for the visuals. I'll be reading the book two weekends from now. I enjoyed the novelization of AotC more than the movie in terms of the storytelling. I loved the special effects of the movie, though.


anyways, expecting Lucas to have a screenplay and directing style that will appeal to the majority of Star Wars fans is the same as expecting the Devs to answer the concerns in this thread in a timely fashion: they just ain't gonna happen.





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Landlubber
Tue Mar 22, 2005 2:30 pm
#19






Nifty wrote:





Warryyr wrote:

That was quite possibly the worst courtship in a movie I'd ever seen. When Padme expresses her deep burning love for Anakin, my only reaction was, "Why? That dude is such a cheesy dork, and nothing he says sounds sincere."





That's exactly why she loved him. She was so sick and tired of smooth talking politicians, that Anakin coming up with the worst pickup line in the history of the galaxy won her over.


As for the screenplay... I'm just in it for the visuals. I'll be reading the book two weekends from now. I enjoyed the novelization of AotC more than the movie in terms of the storytelling. I loved the special effects of the movie, though.


anyways, expecting Lucas to have a screenplay and directing style that will appeal to the majority of Star Wars fans is the same as expecting the Devs to answer the concerns in this thread in a timely fashion: they just ain't gonna happen.







Well, I have to say I'm with Warryyr on that one. Actually I didn't mind Jar-Jar in Ep. 1 all that much (at least not on the first two viewings), but that "love-story" was so horribly written that it really occured to me that there must be absolutely nobody at LucasArts who dares to tell the Bearded One when he's about to screw up. And that in turn made me kinda worried about Ep. 3...


It's no coincidence that the screenplay to the SW movie that's widely considered to be the best of all wasn't written by Lucas...


George Lucas had and still has a great vision for Star Wars, nobody else but him could have done episodes 1-3, it's just when laying down the particulars that he should look for help from time to time





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Warryyr
Tue Mar 22, 2005 2:48 pm
#20






Landlubber wrote:





Nifty wrote:





Warryyr wrote:

That was quite possibly the worst courtship in a movie I'd ever seen. When Padme expresses her deep burning love for Anakin, my only reaction was, "Why? That dude is such a cheesy dork, and nothing he says sounds sincere."





That's exactly why she loved him. She was so sick and tired of smooth talking politicians, that Anakin coming up with the worst pickup line in the history of the galaxy won her over.


As for the screenplay... I'm just in it for the visuals. I'll be reading the book two weekends from now. I enjoyed the novelization of AotC more than the movie in terms of the storytelling. I loved the special effects of the movie, though.


anyways, expecting Lucas to have a screenplay and directing style that will appeal to the majority of Star Wars fans is the same as expecting the Devs to answer the concerns in this thread in a timely fashion: they just ain't gonna happen.







Well, I have to say I'm with Warryyr on that one. Actually I didn't mind Jar-Jar in Ep. 1 all that much (at least not on the first two viewings), but that "love-story" was so horribly written that it really occured to me that there must be absolutely nobody at LucasArts who dares to tell the Bearded One when he's about to screw up. And that in turn made me kinda worried about Ep. 3...


It's no coincidence that the screenplay to the SW movie that's widely considered to be the best of all wasn't written by Lucas...


George Lucas had and still has a great vision for Star Wars, nobody else but him could have done episodes 1-3, it's just when laying down the particulars that he should look for help from time to time






Yeah, like having Obi-Wan refer to Anakin a bazillion times in Episode 2 as "my very young apprentice" and "young padawan learner" and all of that. And his little spat with Padme in Naboo, when she referred to him as a Padawan and not a Jedi.


Yeah, we get it Georgie boy...he's frustrated that he feels he should be a Jedi already and not a Padawan....but instead he beat that horse into the ground again and again and again.


He's not the best screenwriter. Which is as kind of a way as I can put it. Solely out of respect for the fact that heconceived the best space western musical that the world will probably ever see.



DarkY0da
Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:30 pm
#21

I myself was a little worried about Ep. 3... Until I saw that last trailer they put out... and I found out that it's going to be PG-13... I have hope once again...



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Esharra
Tue Mar 22, 2005 5:21 pm
#22






Serratia wrote:








Aleyo wrote:


"I don’t like sand. It’s coarse and rough and irritating, and it gets everywhere. Not like [Naboo]. [On Naboo], everything's soft... and smoooth..."



yeah.. I went there.


Message Edited by Aleyo on 03-22-2005 11:16 AM



Eshi, please /spank him.... Those words should never, ever, ever be repeated.





It doesn't help. Really.




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Esharra
Tue Mar 22, 2005 5:23 pm
#23






Nifty wrote:





Warryyr wrote:

That was quite possibly the worst courtship in a movie I'd ever seen. When Padme expresses her deep burning love for Anakin, my only reaction was, "Why? That dude is such a cheesy dork, and nothing he says sounds sincere."





That's exactly why she loved him.



He made her acting look like an Academy Award worthy performance.




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Drygo
Tue Mar 22, 2005 5:57 pm
#24

If Jar Jar Binks was the devil, then the love story between Anakin and Padme in Ep. 2 was like going through the 9 circles of hell while having ice picks stabbed into your eyes.



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Nifty
Wed Mar 23, 2005 7:44 am
#25

Since we've totally hijacked the thread...


Lucas is a good general storyteller. He's just an average screenwriter, and I don't care for his directing and editing. Several scenes that built the love story were left on the cutting room floor. Several did make it on the DVD for deleted scenes. Also, they were fleshed out in the Salvatore novelization. They should have been left in the theatrical release, as I think it would have helped bring about Padmé's love confession. From the novel, I enjoyed the scenes inside her family's house.


The sand dialogue aside (cuz, yeah, that was just horrid), just what do you expect from a 19 yr old kid trying to woo the only girl he's ever thought of? As confident as he is with his ability with the Force and his physical prowess, he is as equally uncertain, tentative and almost embarassed when it comes to dealing with her. She is his universe, and he has no idea how to deal with it, let alone to convey those emotions to her. My point is, I don't think you can expect him to be aShakespearean romantic. I would find him being nervous, stumbling over his words, and making an ass out of himself to be far more believable than him being smooth, suave and confident, at least when it comes to dealing with her.


As for RotS, I'm expecting some good action and good overall story. I'm not expecting great dialogue, even with the help of the dialogue coach that was brought on board for this one.



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psikobunny
Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:15 am
#26






Ubergamer wrote:
Quite simple really. If they erradicate the entertainer professions (to the point of being useless), a Class-Action Lawsuit would make sense to me, especially considering all the time and money we have spent developing characters in their game. I'm suprised there wasn't one already for 2 years of waiting for content and not having any regarding our professions. And we're still waiting.

Our case is self-explanatory: False advertising.

But it's a big "if" and I really doubt the devs are out to do the above. But then again, lots of devs in the past have done silly things.

Message Edited by Ubergamer on 03-22-2005 12:52 PM





Never happen, that "I accept" button we all click each time we login covers them for just such a case, as well as the "game experience may change during online play" warnings on the outside of the box. Besides, forum posts and development docs, while we put great stock in them as players, are nothing close to advertising, or any form of contract for services.



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