Musician Archive
Thread: Ithorian Musicians: A Thought *Thunderheart Responds*
Xyrdre
Thu Jul 22, 2004 6:38 pm
#14
You're all correct that to get the Ithorians to play instruments in different positions to account for mouth placement would require new animations, instrument artwork, etc.
Personally, if the devs were to assign real time to creating new artwork and animations, I'd rather have them spend that time on more new songs and dances than nuances such as how those animations line up with the character. In a perfect world, we could have it all. In a realistic world, I'd rather see that limited time used to expand our repertoire.
Beery
Sat Jul 24, 2004 7:59 am
#15
"You're all correct that to get the Ithorians to play instruments in different positions to account for mouth placement would require new animations, instrument artwork, etc."
Just add a simple adapter to the wind instruments - kind of like a doctor's stethoscope. It attaches to the mouthpiece at one endand two tubes go to each mouth. Simply have it appear wheneveran Ithorian plays such an instrument, and hey-presto, you have a simple solution with the minimum programmingwork. No new animations, no complex instrument artwork; just a simple tube graphic. Problem solvedafter a couple ofhours (at most) ofdesign and implementation.
StikerRunningfly
Fri Aug 06, 2004 6:17 pm
#17
Beery wrote:
Since I assume that the developers are also human
You assume too much! Hehe
LeBob
Tue Sep 21, 2004 1:03 pm
#18
Ithorians are herbivorous pacifists and are often called 'Meerian Hammer-heads' by those fascinated by their bizarre, ladle-shaped necks and wide-set eyes. Ithorians also have mouths on both sides of their curved necks, which results in a unique 'stereophonic' speaking voice.
from http://www.lucasarts.com/products/galaxies/main.html#ithorian
....... would be nice if they also had "stereophonic" sounding instruments...
/sigh
psikobunny
Wed Sep 22, 2004 8:13 pm
#19
Maybe when they implement Dual Wielding weaponry for Pistols, and One handed, they will give it to the Itho Musicians? Yes, its a funny thought, but I'm somewhat serious. No added experience, just the simple abilty to play Slither, Fanfar, Fizzz, Chidi, and Traz, one in each hand, leading to each mouth.
Apart from that, I totally agree with Beery's idea. It was what I was going to post almost word for word, when I was told of this thread before I read it.
NewJedi
Fri Sep 24, 2004 7:45 am
#20
I wish I could comment, but the JTL beta NDA precludes public comment. Again, I'm quite aware of the concerns about Ithorian Musicians, and I passed them on to the devs well before I started the JTL beta.
Tralmek
Fri Sep 24, 2004 9:54 am
#21
Beery wrote:
"You're all correct that to get the Ithorians to play instruments in different positions to account for mouth placement would require new animations, instrument artwork, etc."
Just add a simple adapter to the wind instruments - kind of like a doctor's stethoscope. It attaches to the mouthpiece at one endand two tubes go to each mouth. Simply have it appear wheneveran Ithorian plays such an instrument, and hey-presto, you have a simple solution with the minimum programmingwork. No new animations, no complex instrument artwork; just a simple tube graphic. Problem solvedafter a couple ofhours (at most) ofdesign and implementation.
/mood disgruntled
You expect a Dev to spend a couple of hours fixing something for Entertainers? How could you possibly expect something so unreasonable. The devs are busy people...I mean look at the focus thread for the "Entertainer Quests." No Dev has been able to find the 2 seconds to come in and say "We're still reading this and will get back to you." Unless there's some sort of Dev initiation party or gauntlet run, I don't think any Entertainment aspect of the game will get more work. They just...don't...care.
/mood Lilo
That's a great idea even if I do have some doubts about whether they will bother with doing it. Hopefully someone in the Development team has thought about an even better idea that we don't know about yet! Here's hoping!
*pops open a can of Dr. Pepper and goes back to the Quest focus thread to hit F5*
NewJedi
Fri Sep 24, 2004 4:39 pm
#22
Well, I can imagine animation and artissues with Ithorians raise issues for a number of professions, not just Musicians. Just speculating here, no NDA breach.
Sunjammer
Sun Sep 26, 2004 9:53 pm
#23
I imagine any emotes an Ithorian can't do without modifications they simply won't do. The text will still be there, unchanged, but without any animation. That's how it is with me as a Rodian, anyway. I can't wink--no eyelids.
J.
Umiio "Umi" Panwanga • Rodian party girl • Bria
Iba'onchab • Gets boarded sometimes • Chimaera
This random sig quote is brought to you by PVP:
"Look at you two. George Lucas could spit on the wall and you two would stare at it for hours. Not me. No, I remember Howard the Duck. I remember The Ewok Adventure."
"Blasphemer!"
"Francis, no! Anger leads to the Dark Side!"
J.
Umiio "Umi" Panwanga • Rodian party girl • Bria
Iba'onchab • Gets boarded sometimes • Chimaera
This random sig quote is brought to you by PVP:
"Look at you two. George Lucas could spit on the wall and you two would stare at it for hours. Not me. No, I remember Howard the Duck. I remember The Ewok Adventure."
"Blasphemer!"
"Francis, no! Anger leads to the Dark Side!"
psikobunny
Mon Sep 27, 2004 12:24 am
#24
*thinks of the number of Emote animations that would need to be programmed specially*
LeBob
Thu Oct 21, 2004 3:07 pm
#25
Well, they told us in the Beta forums......... basically they do not have enough time to make this look right currently, but they are aware of the issue, and may make a special mouthpiece for Ithorian Musicians some time in the future.
At least we got a response though.
LeBob
Thu Oct 21, 2004 3:22 pm
#26
Thunderheart wrote:
LeBob wrote:
FROM THE NON-BETA FORUMS
[front page] Two new characters species will be introduced in Star Wars Galaxies: Jump to Lightspeed. First to be revealed, the Ithorian.
DEVs, have the devs considered the thought of Ithorian Musicians? How will Ithorian Musicians be handled graphically? Will they be able to play a slitherhorn and a traz at the same time from their two mouths? If not, which mouth will they play from? How will they hold the instrument since their mouths are on the side of their neck?
Please get this checked on.
thanks
!WARNING - YOU ARE GOING INTO THE NON-BETA FORUMS!http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=musician&message.id=16511
This is a serious issue, IMHO... I think I brought this up early enough to have deserved a response by now...
thanks
The animations for the Ithorians will not change currently, though in the future, we've discussion giving them a special instrument that has a stethoscope sort of mouthpiece. They would hold the instrument in the same fashion as everyone else, but the mouthpiece would split and wrap around to both mouths.
I am not happy about the outcome, but I am greatful for the response.